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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-27 18:34 [#02362606]
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all this dichotomy talk, i never asked, what would be a correct dichomoty for argument in this instance (science vs god)?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-27 18:35 [#02362607]
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ha 'dichomoty'
i'm a wittwe kid
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-27 18:45 [#02362610]
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well from the christian perspective the actual dichotomy, or dilemma, is unbelief. it is unbelief and blindness which causes people to claim that belief in God is completely ridiculous and outdated, while abiogenesis seems modern, logical and rational. people make up the 'rules' of science and and then follow them as though they were hardwired into the cosmos. for instance, the 'rule' that ockham's razor applies to everything except (conveniently) God (despite that i believe ockham was also a theologian).
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yann_g
from now on 2010-01-27 18:45 [#02362611]
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well it depends on what you mean "relevant".
talking about nothing less than eternal life and giving guidelines (if not laws) for reaching eternal happiness without coming up with the shadow of an evidence ever about all the supernatural and magic involved, is what i call beeing irrelevant.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-27 18:48 [#02362612]
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i've given a wealth of evidence just in this thread, and more in the links i've provided. this goes back to the blindness i was speaking of, people just look past it as though it wasn't even there. it goes dim, like walter in the dark tower books.
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yann_g
from now on 2010-01-27 18:51 [#02362614]
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well an evidence is not something that relies on imagination.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2010-01-27 18:52 [#02362615]
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thanks for helping with my point.
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yann_g
from now on 2010-01-27 18:54 [#02362617]
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did i?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-01-27 18:58 [#02362618]
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The thing about religion (well let's face it, Christianity, because it must be the ultimate path to god according to them) - is it all relies on faith. You must believe all the historical postulations are true and you must ignore the alternative that they could be false. So in it's core, the religion of christianity leaves no room for investigation as to its coming about, it relies on being inherently true.
in short, it has no relevance to science.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-01-27 19:00 [#02362619]
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hahahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2010-01-27 20:56 [#02362633]
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urbanphilosophy is a pretty decent site where people discuss the really difficult arguments about philosophy and theology. If you know who Bahnsen and Plantinga are you'll enjoy this.
Now back to trolling! I fucked the pope!!!!!!!!!
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yann_g
from now on 2010-01-27 21:51 [#02362643]
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theology is the worst type of masturbation.
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magicant
from Canada on 2010-01-27 23:30 [#02362664]
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like when cx talks about autechre releases in retrospect
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