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offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 08:39 [#02351767]
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I experience world and emotion by help of electrochemical,
chemical, and electrical responses, reactions, feedbacks,
and by sensory electrical impulses, and by help of brains
neuro nets and their posibility to store information, forget
information. With those simple systems mentioned before, we
can construct more complex organ - brain. Therefore I do not
know some aspects of experience which neurology cant
explain.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 08:55 [#02351769]
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So you experience yourself as in parts put together? Thats
weird because I define myself as 1.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 09:16 [#02351774]
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No I experience myself as one being by help of many parts.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2009-12-16 10:01 [#02351775]
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Your lady parts?


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2009-12-16 11:05 [#02351799]
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Every experience is a neurological one, no-one refutes that.
The question is whether that experience can ever be true
once contaminated by thought. Basically, what thought calls
you is incapable of having an experience.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 11:46 [#02351803]
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nicely put. But thought is an experience from 'you' too
imo.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 11:52 [#02351807]
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We do not fully understand what is experience so how we can
state if it is true or false? No one knows how brain works,
precisly how human can be councious. We only know certain
mechanisms of brain behavior.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 11:56 [#02351808]
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What are you trying to tell me?


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 12:00 [#02351811]
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Experience is just the way it is for you. Who is you? and
how do you tell me its you?


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 12:09 [#02351815]
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If not physical properties or communication there is no way
for me to tel somebody that this is realy me. If for example
you have someones body and apearence of other person, you
mustbe had trouble to prove your true identity to others,
only by stating facts which are known to you might proof you
are true in this case. All I am trying to tell that ID is
only information you got (this may maybe include character,
charisma and so on), and body you got.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 12:22 [#02351818]
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information is telling me I'm me? no, I'm telling
information its me.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 12:28 [#02351820]
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We are interacting dynamic arrays of information and world
around is too. That is another hypothesis why we are just
like one being together with nature.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-12-16 13:07 [#02351827]
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the experiencer and the experience are never separate


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-16 16:05 [#02351910]
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"The eater and the eaten are never separate"

*huge applause*


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 16:16 [#02351921]
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and what's your experience?


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-16 16:20 [#02351925]
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Oh please no


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-12-16 16:32 [#02351931]
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lol


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-17 04:01 [#02352118]
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Ok I'll stop but I've got a final post. I think the question
is too big to answer and many philosophers tried before who
also didn't came up with the right answer. The answer
remains mostly hypothetical so therefore I'll try surching
other ways. I want the truth and this way I aint getting it,
I'll be back with the right answer when I find it.
I was hoping we could find the answer as we are, I thought,
open minded but we didn't. Somehow I'm a bit dissapointed
but re-considering my question and all the answers in this
thread I'm glad we at least tried. Also it started making
people think about themselves and who they are, wich is a
big plus too. Thanks all for your donations finding you.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2009-12-17 05:13 [#02352125]
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Q. How do you experience yourself in your mind or body?
A. You don't - there's no "you" to experience.


 


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