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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 08:39 [#02351767]
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I experience world and emotion by help of electrochemical, chemical, and electrical responses, reactions, feedbacks, and by sensory electrical impulses, and by help of brains neuro nets and their posibility to store information, forget information. With those simple systems mentioned before, we can construct more complex organ - brain. Therefore I do not know some aspects of experience which neurology cant explain.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 08:55 [#02351769]
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So you experience yourself as in parts put together? Thats weird because I define myself as 1.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 09:16 [#02351774]
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No I experience myself as one being by help of many parts.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2009-12-16 10:01 [#02351775]
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Your lady parts?
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2009-12-16 11:05 [#02351799]
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Every experience is a neurological one, no-one refutes that. The question is whether that experience can ever be true once contaminated by thought. Basically, what thought calls you is incapable of having an experience.
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from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 11:46 [#02351803]
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nicely put. But thought is an experience from 'you' too imo.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 11:52 [#02351807]
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We do not fully understand what is experience so how we can state if it is true or false? No one knows how brain works, precisly how human can be councious. We only know certain mechanisms of brain behavior.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 11:56 [#02351808]
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What are you trying to tell me?
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from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 12:00 [#02351811]
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Experience is just the way it is for you. Who is you? and how do you tell me its you?
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 12:09 [#02351815]
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If not physical properties or communication there is no way for me to tel somebody that this is realy me. If for example you have someones body and apearence of other person, you mustbe had trouble to prove your true identity to others, only by stating facts which are known to you might proof you are true in this case. All I am trying to tell that ID is only information you got (this may maybe include character, charisma and so on), and body you got.
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from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 12:22 [#02351818]
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information is telling me I'm me? no, I'm telling information its me.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-12-16 12:28 [#02351820]
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We are interacting dynamic arrays of information and world around is too. That is another hypothesis why we are just like one being together with nature.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-12-16 13:07 [#02351827]
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the experiencer and the experience are never separate
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-16 16:05 [#02351910]
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"The eater and the eaten are never separate"
*huge applause*
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from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-16 16:16 [#02351921]
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and what's your experience?
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-16 16:20 [#02351925]
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Oh please no
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-12-16 16:32 [#02351931]
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lol
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2009-12-17 04:01 [#02352118]
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Ok I'll stop but I've got a final post. I think the question is too big to answer and many philosophers tried before who also didn't came up with the right answer. The answer remains mostly hypothetical so therefore I'll try surching other ways. I want the truth and this way I aint getting it, I'll be back with the right answer when I find it.
I was hoping we could find the answer as we are, I thought, open minded but we didn't. Somehow I'm a bit dissapointed but re-considering my question and all the answers in this thread I'm glad we at least tried. Also it started making people think about themselves and who they are, wich is a big plus too. Thanks all for your donations finding you.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2009-12-17 05:13 [#02352125]
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Q. How do you experience yourself in your mind or body? A. You don't - there's no "you" to experience.
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