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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-26 17:59 [#00491957]
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Everyone's favorite pussy Goth-pop band. Who loves 'em?
I think Robert Smith is a minor genious, he can write a catchy tune at will. I like their REALLY early stuff better than their late 80's heyday though... Imaginary Boys, Boys Don't Cry, Faith, and especially Seventeen Seconds. Nice sparse production, rawer with less keyboards. Pornography is overrated.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 18:01 [#00491959]
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hmm, depeche mode-do they fit into this category?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 18:06 [#00491961]
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hehe, i missunderstood the whole thing :) yeah, sure are pretty cool
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-26 18:07 [#00491962]
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Sure, if you want them to. I haven't heard too much D Mode yet, but I'm getting into them... I'm on a early 80's pop rock binge... Smiths, Cure, New Order... I can't stop bopping.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 18:07 [#00491963]
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sure=the cure ehheehehe i should go to bed, looks like im really tired hehe
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-26 18:11 [#00491965]
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huh, i been into depeche mode since i started to listen to music
enjoy the silence and personal jesus still sound great to me
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-26 18:14 [#00491966]
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the cure happen to be one of my faves.. yes, their later stuff is popy..did you hear that robert's releasing a new album? he should pack it in..sorry to say, it's sounding bad and that's not how he should be remembered.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-12-26 18:46 [#00491998]
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Throw all the shitty labels you want on them. They're a great band that makes great music, end of story.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-26 21:01 [#00492107]
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Robert Smith is not a MINOR anything, he is sooooo good. he's been making music for years and years and has yet to disappoint!
i saw this wonder show with him (much music in canada) and he was smiling and happy and he said he never thought he'd make it to 40 and be happy. and he was glad he was both. he found his peace, and i'm really glad. i think his music is inventive, fun, and haunting......and boy seeing them in 2000 was one of the best shows EVAH!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-26 21:08 [#00492110]
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Siouxsie's album Hyaena, with Smith on guitar and keys, is her best ever. Not so crazy about The Cure, but wow, did mister Smith ever add something special to that album.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-26 21:08 [#00492111]
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yeah dig most of their stuff..grew up on it
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-26 21:19 [#00492121]
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he's brilliant, and just so interesting!
sadly i've NOT heard Siouxsie's album......looks on slsk and downloads some tracks!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-26 21:24 [#00492129]
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Dazzle, We Hunger and Belladonna are three of the standout tracks on that one.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-26 21:28 [#00492133]
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ADDED to my wish listy thingy!!
thanks for the req's =0)
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-26 21:32 [#00492141]
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oh no no no, don't get me wrong at all! i fuggin LOVE the cure and my heart pores out for robert. well i was just a little suprised at the greatest hits acoustic cd because it was...welly..not as i expected
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-12-26 22:27 [#00492251]
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ABSOLUTELY the best band EVER....
You read my mind Phecks:)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-26 22:29 [#00492254]
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I went thru a Cure stage... Still think there pretty good.. esp. there older stuff! :)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-26 22:31 [#00492257]
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He's definitely a genious, I just said ''minor'' cuz I don't put him up there with Lennon and Dylan and Hendrix, those guys... but he's still amazing. There aren't many people I consider ''minor geniouses!''
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-12-26 22:31 [#00492259]
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RS...Definately a genius....ON a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL than any other...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-26 22:43 [#00492286]
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Hey Ophie: if you like the Cure make sure you check out Hednoize who did some producing for them
Also Depeche Mode's best album is Ultra.
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-26 23:03 [#00492324]
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this hednoize is good shite his voice sounds like dave gahan
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-26 23:07 [#00492329]
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The first two Cure records suck. Depeche Mode's best record is Violator. I've been a fan of theirs since I started listening to music.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-12-26 23:10 [#00492330]
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I would have to agree with DM's best album being " Violator"...Either that one or DM101
As for the Cure's first album...splendid, absolutely splendid. And they only GET BETTER
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-26 23:20 [#00492334]
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I don't agree. Wild Mood Swings is kinda sketchy. Bloodflowers is spot on though.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-26 23:21 [#00492335]
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My fave Cure albums are their first two... I like the production. Reminds me of Joy Division, especially the bass playing and beats.
And I agree on Violator... I've heard most of that and it's dang good.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-12-26 23:23 [#00492336]
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Wild Mood Swings is kinda hard to digest at first...especially after something like Wish....
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-26 23:23 [#00492338]
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ALso, check out Violator b-sides: Happiest Girl, Sea of Sin, Dangerous, Memphiso, Siebling.
I just don't get into the old stuff apart from boys don't cry. Faith is great, though.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-26 23:25 [#00492342]
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I think Wild Mood Swings has its highs and lows. The good stuff is great, but the bad stuff is annoying. Club America, particularly.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-12-26 23:26 [#00492343]
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wow...good call, I forgot about Memphiso....
What a BADASS beautiful track.... Good call
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-26 23:27 [#00492345]
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The trouble is it's dangerously close to ska/really awful jazz. His lyrics are also (at times) plain and impersonal.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-27 09:15 [#00492591]
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heres my view on the cure, their pop shit (which is most of their albums) sucks
the trilogy is the best by them and you should know which albums im talking about (disitegration, pornography and bloowflowers)
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-27 09:16 [#00492592]
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bloodflowers*
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-12-27 09:48 [#00492629]
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I refuse to refer to them as a trilogy. I think Robert Smith just thought, "Maybe if I say it goes with the two most popular records, people will like it." I think they're three records, okay. They will never be a trilogy to me though.
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nano
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2002-12-27 11:09 [#00492687]
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Saw the cure this summer at the arvika festivalen. It was kind of boring, or it was just to cold =)
The music is good but i think that he should lay of with the makeup and stuff. He's like 40 now?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-12-27 11:35 [#00492712]
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I liked the song "A Forest". That tune has been nicked by so many other artists since.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-27 13:58 [#00492815]
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"2 most popular records" wtf? umm theyre most popular ones are the ones with all the crap radio singles on em,the cure is split into two categories no matter how you look at it, the radio cure songs and the ones that were meant to be apart of an album not a collection of songs.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-27 22:31 [#00493205]
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*kiss me kiss me kiss me*
i lubbbbbbbbb that CD!!!
*sings just like heaven*
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-12-27 22:35 [#00493210]
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ROBERT SMITH
ooh
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ashbrg
from Interzone (Spain) on 2003-06-21 14:43 [#00750731]
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pornography is my fave. unique
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-06-21 15:14 [#00750784]
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The Cure never really impressed me..some videos are okay though.
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ashbrg
from Interzone (Spain) on 2003-06-21 16:23 [#00750857]
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'if only tonight we could sleep'. one of their greatest songs
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mimi
on 2003-06-22 00:34 [#00751168]
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i really like disintegration, faith, seventeen seconds, kiss me kiss me kiss me, and bloodflowers...
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steve
from chicago on 2003-06-22 00:45 [#00751172]
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The first line of Ophecks' original thread still bothers me as much as it did six months ago when I first replied to this. Why insult the band and their fans then try to praise them? This really didn't need to be brought back up, ashbrg.
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mimi
on 2003-06-22 00:57 [#00751177]
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i kinda hear ophecks on this one. this band has got some whiney fans. and they are pussies. nothing wrong with that, just stating a fact.
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steve
from chicago on 2003-06-22 08:19 [#00751421]
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Opinion, not fact.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-22 08:55 [#00751450]
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It was a sort of... joke... you know, kidding around kind of thing? Not totally serious? Satire? Irony? Don't be so self concious. I myself am a pussy Goth-poppy gayboy, but I can laugh at myself. God knows, everyone else does. :_-(
*begins to weep, and thus, puts on Seventeen Seconds
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steve
from chicago on 2003-06-22 11:27 [#00751719]
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That's bullshit. You're just trying to make fun of yourself before anyone else can. You're the one who's self-conscious. There's no need to be ashamed about liking The Cure. All you're doing is perpetuating a stereotype and branding any fan of theirs a pussy/goth/pop fan. If that's what you think when you listen to them, maybe you should grow up and try again in a few years.
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mimi
on 2003-06-22 11:35 [#00751732]
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you know, i really don't think it is such a big deal. it is JUST a band, and it's JUST a stereotype, why can't we have fun with it? besides, the cures fans are already so fucked with this one, there is no way it will ever go away. hard earned years of moping! lighten up. this isn't world work 3.
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steve
from chicago on 2003-06-22 11:39 [#00751738]
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Have fun all you like with the subject, I'm just letting my feelings be known. That is what this board is for.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-22 11:47 [#00751760]
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''You're just trying to make fun of yourself before anyone else can.''
Yeah, I thought I already established that fact...
''You're the one who's self-conscious.''
You got that right. No, really.
''There's no need to be ashamed about liking The Cure.''
Absolutely.
''All you're doing is perpetuating a stereotype''
Fair enough. I'm sure everybody here is mature enough to not take my word as the Gospel though, they have their own opinions on the Cure and their fans, I'm sure.
''and branding any fan of theirs a pussy/goth/pop fan.''
No... I was just joking.
''If that's what you think when you listen to them, maybe you should grow up and try again in a few years. ''
No... I was just joking. I know a lot of Cure fans who are big and strong and so so assertive. Like you! They just appeal to my sensitive side, that's why I like them, personally.
Anyway, we routinely mock the IDM 'culture' and IDM geeks, it's no biggie. We're all big boys and girls here, no harm done. I guess I crossed the line today. *shrug
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