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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 08:08 [#00370540]
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beseen.com which i had used for years apparently stopped providing counters for free. can someone name some free counters i can sign up for? thanks.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:10 [#00370662]
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they reel you in then start charging.....very typical of so called FREE service providers!! =/
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:12 [#00370665]
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I've used thecounter.com ok for a couple of years without any problems...seems to work fine & "does what it says on the tin"...
They do a bare bones basic one for free or a subs one with extra features...
If you've got your own domain (.org, .com etc..) then your ISP has probably got free counters set up anyway...checking there is another option...
(if you can, I always think it's better to try and get access to your own log files if at all possible...then you can analyse to death and take further than just a count of hits...kinda funky to see who's linking to you & what sort of visitors you get...)...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:16 [#00370676]
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All part of dom-com shakeup...people who previously thought just getting people to view your site was a valid indicator of future earnings are no more.. no-one can get any VC or investor interest without showing there's a definate revenue stream...
so yeah, it might look a bit sneaky, but all they are really doing is ensuring future survival by charging for the service they provide...
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-29 09:21 [#00370693]
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If you've got a web host some server side scripting languages enabled you could probably download one from hotscripts.com or somewhere similar. By a server side scripting language i mean like php, jsp, asp, etc.
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-29 09:23 [#00370696]
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The big advantage is that you don't have to rely on other hosts, and can be fully customized to suit your site.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:23 [#00370698]
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thanks guys
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-29 09:25 [#00370705]
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it makes sense, and i know NOTHING in this world is free.
i just wish they would be upfront about things....instead of suckering you in and then springing on the CHARGES. it's the hidden charges that drive me batty.
if i knew up front, then i'd know what i was getting into ya know =0)
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:27 [#00370709]
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Everythings free if you want it to be :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-29 09:27 [#00370712]
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brendan -- Your avatar works on so many different levels :D
nice one man
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:37 [#00370741]
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agreed...hidden charges are the worst...
I hate the way it's so difficult to download the FREE version of RealPlayer...they are sooo sneaky & hide it away with tiny tiny links whilst the ver that costs extra get 95% of the screen...
They are probably the worst out there I can think of...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 09:39 [#00370750]
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What about porn sites that make you download premium rate diallers?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 09:50 [#00370790]
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That was a bad one...doubt you'd get away with that sort of scam anymore...people seem a lot more wary of downloading & running stuff due to these sort of scams & viruses...
(Didn't it download a dialer...disconnect & then re-dial the new number, a premium rate call to somewhere in russia...
Technically pretty clever...& kinda funny as it was so sucessful...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-08-29 10:36 [#00370868]
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Yep...they still try to do it now...I found this fact out when I *accidently* happen to occasionally stumble across sites if ill repute on my daily journey along the information super highway.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-08-29 14:35 [#00371141]
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counters are so 1994 :^)
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-29 14:44 [#00371144]
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[URL=http://www.aphextwin.nu/explore/98158397550364.shtml]h princo: Thanks dude. Taken from ere[/URL]
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-29 14:45 [#00371145]
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bah @ bb code
How the fuck do you do links?
Point me to a manual if there is one..
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brendan
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-08-29 14:48 [#00371147]
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Oh nevermind, i just read the FAQ. Anyway... It was taken from here.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-29 14:54 [#00371152]
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Oh yeah, love that Recked ;)
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