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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 04:38 [#00365015]
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give me some titles of films you think don't get the apreciationioonion they should get + why.
I would go for 'saturn 3'. it has strange atmosphere and the robot is truely scary. also, the director wasn't afraid to take a lot of time to show us how the robot gets assembled - I like that.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-08-26 04:41 [#00365027]
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gattaca - probably one of the most intelligent movies i've seen, very stylish, and great acting also.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:42 [#00365030]
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jacobs ladder doesn't get spoken about enough. Theres also a nice little movie called Local Hero that no one seems to have heard of.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 04:42 [#00365031]
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bulworth smartest comedy i've ever seen, truest criticism of hollywood and politics ever on film, brilliant job all around by warren beatty who stars, directed, produced, and wrote the script.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:43 [#00365032]
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and yes, gatacca was good, although the ending was hammy as hell.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:43 [#00365034]
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oh yeah, and office space for those of you who have spent one minute in a cubicle.
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-26 04:44 [#00365035]
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A.I. & Contact
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Thater
from Helena, MT (United States) on 2002-08-26 04:45 [#00365037]
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I think Twelve Monkeys is underappreciated... it's a brilliant film with endless possibilities for interpretation of reality... kind of like real life. I also like Bruce Willis, and Terry Gilliam is a genius... He always makes films about insane people.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 04:46 [#00365038]
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84 Charlie MoPic is also a good one. frightening..
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:47 [#00365039]
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You seen Brazil?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-08-26 04:47 [#00365040]
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2001 'nuff said.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-08-26 04:47 [#00365041]
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hedphelym: i'm glad you mentioned contact, i love that movie too!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:48 [#00365043]
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i would hardly call that undervalued.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 04:49 [#00365044]
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also underrated:
series 7: the contenders. great spoof of reality tv that pre-dates survivor.
slam. saul williams is one of my idols. this is a great intro to slam poetry and saul williams in specific.
blue velvet. creepy fun.
dark days. amazing documentary on underground nyc homeless. music by dj shadow.
amelie. magical.
uhf. cute comedy.
roger & me. somewhat dated but so true capitalist criticism. michael moore's masterpiece. i hope it gets a dvd release soon.
bamboozled. another great criticism of hollywood including the racist past of entertainment. damon wayans' greatest performance. brilliant writing.
wings of desire. bizarre multilingual, french originated existentialist film from the 1980s.
a.i. underrated sci-fi. would've been better w/ kubrick at the helm and more involvement from cunningham.
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-26 04:50 [#00365045]
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Ya, I've seen Brazil, it's cool.
Cheers, naaic.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-26 04:52 [#00365049]
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Any film with Arnold Schwarzenegger is undervalued. I love the guy, and he has fantastic acting range (yes...) and big muscles! And he gets the best lines. He is an arTISTE. He is everything we want to be.
He is... Ahnuld.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 04:53 [#00365050]
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HAVE I SEEN BRAZIL!
its playing in my head all the time. just bought the OST 2 months ago.
good point, Thater, I agree, 12 monkeys is underapreciated.
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-26 04:53 [#00365051]
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tits, Amelie is overrated. I figure all the ppl who love it haven't seen much foreign film. It is good, but pretty average.
Wings of Desire is very good!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:53 [#00365052]
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roger and me is classic. i hear moore has a new one about columbine. should be interesting.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-08-26 04:54 [#00365054]
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How about "Ghost Dog: The way of the Samurai"?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 04:54 [#00365056]
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he does get the best lines.
"let off some steam." "if it bleeds, we can kill it"
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-08-26 04:57 [#00365058]
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the professional - don't know if it's underrated or not, but it's a really good movie nonetheless.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:00 [#00365061]
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don't be a hater!!! amelie is one of the best foreign films i've seen in years. it's special.
zaphod: that sounds incredibly interested. i'll look into that.
i know this makes me creepy but for the last couple of years i've toyed with writing a short story called "return to columbine" where some sicko obsessed with the news media (ie: he was glued to the columbine footage) returns to the school years later to "finish the job".
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 05:01 [#00365063]
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I see a lot of foreign films (I live in Foreign) and I really like Amelie (but I am a big fan of Jean-Pierre Jeunets work).
why would someone like that film a lot because its the first foreign film they've seen?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:01 [#00365064]
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leon/the professional is one of my favorite movies as well. i think it's underrated as an action movie.
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thanksomuch
from planet claire on 2002-08-26 05:03 [#00365067]
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toys, crazy in alabama, dancer in the dark, ummmmmm, several forgien films...
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:04 [#00365069]
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the professional is a great movie.
get the uncut dvd if you haven't already.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:06 [#00365072]
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cool new avatar, thanksomuch. i saw toys years ago when i was too young to appreciate it. what's so great about it? i might rent it again to see what's up.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 05:08 [#00365075]
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might I mention steven soderberghs 'the limey' at this point?
superb thriller, told in an intelligent way (flashbacks and -forwards) with beautiful camerawork.
"tell him I'm coming"
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-26 05:11 [#00365081]
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thx 1138 dark city patlabor 2 american beauty(...ok, it won an oscar..but no one ever mentions it..)
clockers bottle rocket le femme nikita following the virgin suicides
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-26 05:11 [#00365082]
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We jst went and saw "The Sweetest Thing"..i mean this thing has been colossally slammed by every critic her to Timbaktu...but I really enjoyed it..really crude, rude, obnoxious and funny in the Farelly Borthers kind of way, rife with blowjob, semen jokes etc..a far cry from a chick flick I was dreading...Cameron Diaz is a natural comic, while Christina Applegate all that time of the funniest sitcom ever (Married with Children)..has impeccible timing..sure no cerebral Oscar Cannes et all contender but much mucho entertaining..
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:13 [#00365083]
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Speaking of undervalued, i just saw After Life. Its an amazing movie, i suggest everyone here see it.
And Being There, with Peter Sellers, is also seldom mentioned.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 05:13 [#00365084]
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thx 1138: grand film.
following: yes, good.
the virgin suicides: beautiful.
I have to say NO to american beauty though - trite piece of shit imo.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 05:14 [#00365085]
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after life is good. slow slow slow. we like that.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-26 05:15 [#00365086]
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and yeah... i liked the professional a lot as well..
and as far as amelie goes.. i think its a great movie..but wouldnt call it underrated.. everyone i know who's seen it loves it
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:18 [#00365087]
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american beauty was trite and overrated, wrapped up in sentimentality.
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Thater
from Helena, MT (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:18 [#00365088]
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The new Michael Moore picture is called Bowling For Columbine and it's about violence in the media. And yes I've seen Brazil and I own the Criterion DVD.
here are some other Underrated films....
The Audition (Odishon)- Japanese film by Takashi Miike. Incredibly misleading and bizzare. Very thought provoking, and stomach churning.
Session 9 - I watched this film alone in the dark and it made me question my sanity. But then, so did Fight Club and Memento.
Man On The Moon - Sure it was a suck ass film with little to no historical accuracy about the life of Andy Kaufman, but Jim Carrey was born to play that role. Plus I just love Andy Kaufman.
Bladerunner and Total Recall - Both very loose interpretations of Philip K. Dick short stories... both awesome.
City Of The Lost Children, and Delicatessen - Both films by Jean Pierre Jeunet, the director of Amelie, only both of these are about 100 times better. I really liked Amelie, but mostly because Audrey Tatou is absolutley incredible *sigh*
That's all i can think of for now... I'm going outside... the sun is gone.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-26 05:20 [#00365092]
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um..define undervalued?
I keep seeing films metioned that are acknowledged cult classics
Jacobs Ladder Brazil Delicatessian etc all have critical respect as well as cult followings..
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Thater
from Helena, MT (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:21 [#00365093]
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Oh yeah, every Terry Gilliam movie ever...
Baron Munchausen Time Bandits Jabberwocky Fisher King and Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, even though he didn't seem to understand what that book was about, I liked the visual asthetic.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-26 05:24 [#00365097]
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I agree. those aren't underrated imo too.
how about Mel Brooks "young Frankenstein"?
strange mix of comedy and horror.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:26 [#00365101]
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good movie, but considered a comedy classic, so not undervalued.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:31 [#00365106]
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Kurasowas Ikiru, though not undervalued, is never mentioned here. Its one of the saddest movies i've seen.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-26 05:34 [#00365108]
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Total Recall is awesome... it's got Arnold!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:36 [#00365110]
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blam! "Consider that a divorce"
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thanksomuch
from planet claire on 2002-08-26 05:39 [#00365111]
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titsworth, thanks man. it's fom a japanese print of a fox possesing a woman. i don't know why i liked toys so much. maybe becasue it is quite clever, and the sets rock.
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thanksomuch
from planet claire on 2002-08-26 05:40 [#00365113]
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zaphod, his movie "dreams" has got to be my favorite movie.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:41 [#00365115]
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that was pretty damn good as well.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-26 05:42 [#00365116]
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lets see there are several already listed that i agree with
- gattaca was great i LOVE jude law, but it was just a interesting and original movie
- bullworth was fantastic, and i think stepped on the toes of too many in hollywood so it was 86'd
- the professional was SO GOOD. i own the unrated directors cut DVD and it's brilliant!!
- OMG i thought i was the only one to see 'the limey' it was fantastic. i love that actor...i can't think of his name right now but he is ALWAYS a good bad guy. although did you see him in priscilla queen of the desert as a cross dresser.....he was great in that too.
- contact was a great movie from a GREAT book by carl sagan...i recommend the book before the movie
- young frankenstein (which i own) has been one of my TOP TEN fav's of all time
- ARNOLD movies are underrated. he's an excellent action star and comes across as intelligent and witty in the movies i've seen him in.
QRTER.....you have EXCELLENT taste in movies.....ehehhehe
some i disagree with
- A.I. while my beloved jude law was in it, it just lacked HEART, that movie did not move me.
- toys was a movie i saw TWICE and didn't like both times. i dunno maybe i missed the point of that film but i just kept scratching my head.
one movie i'd like to NOMINATE would have to be Tombstone.....it was a great western in the tradition of great westerns with just a lil twist.
had one of my fav lines (as said by val kilmer) 'i'm your little huckleberry'....ehehhe
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-26 05:44 [#00365118]
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Terrence Stamp was the main character in the Limey.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 05:49 [#00365126]
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yessssss....12 monkeys...awesome film, dark & thought provoking
brain candy...kith ROCK!
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