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offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:43 [#00358879]
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did you ever get a chance to see the video yet?


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 19:44 [#00358880]
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no, where is it?


 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:45 [#00358882]
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hang on i gotta find where i wrote it down


 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:46 [#00358883]
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i'm gonna email it to you


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:48 [#00358886]
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phobia...

could you do us a MASSIVE favor?!

do you think you could make a poll asking who here under 18
would like to go to the NYC show?

im trying to convince the promotor to make it 18+ instead of
21+

it would be great if i could show him some hard evidence,
and our commitment to wanting to get in! =)


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 19:49 [#00358888]
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can't do that due to scheduled polls...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:50 [#00358889]
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:S

ok, thanks anyways


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:50 [#00358890]
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zeus: just start an online petition, i'm sure we'll sign it


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:51 [#00358891]
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how would i go about doing this?


 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:51 [#00358892]
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alright phob the directions are on there way to you now!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:52 [#00358893]
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go to one of the many online petition web sites and start a
new one. then post the link to it we all sign it.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:53 [#00358894]
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wow.. didnt know there was online petition sites!

recommend one?


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 19:54 [#00358895]
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besides, how do we know that only 18- people are voting?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:55 [#00358899]
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that question shows a complete lack of understanding of the
situation, phobe.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-21 19:58 [#00358902]
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http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 20:00 [#00358903]
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do you think you could make a poll asking who here under
18
would like to go to the NYC show?


means: only people below the age of 18 should vote, doesn't
it?



 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:02 [#00358906]
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not really, i don't think it should be 21+ and i'm 25


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:03 [#00358907]
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um no..
1) in the immediate sense, why would people under 18 care if
the show is 18 and over or 21 and over? either way they
can't get in, right?
2) the point is an ethical one that anyone could have an
opinion of. just cos you're over 21 doesn't mean you
automatically side with the promoters. you might have
friends under 21 or might just think the policy is stupid.
zeus has a right to get their support as well cos it's a
very valid point.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:07 [#00358911]
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If your under 21 can't you get in someone who is 21? You
can do that in a bar...


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:08 [#00358912]
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Or does it have to be a parent?


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 20:08 [#00358913]
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hmmm.... well, perhaps my bad, but Zeus requested a poll:

do you think you could make a poll asking who here under
18
would like to go to the NYC show?


and I didn't really checked out the rest of his message.. so
my question was accurate, i reckon.



 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:11 [#00358918]
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I think everyone under 21 would vote that they should lower
it...


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 20:13 [#00358920]
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then again....... how do we limit it to 21- people? It's
imposible. Of course I could set up a poll where all members
could vote, but that's another thing.


 

offline nekta from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 20:14 [#00358922]
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thats why the Uk is wicked for shows, only 18+ here and i
think it is OK, it seems a bit well stupid for shows to be
21+ to be honest


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:14 [#00358923]
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hey dont sweat it guys...

just sing the petition here!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:14 [#00358924]
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*sign


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-08-21 20:15 [#00358926]
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Would the over 21 thing not have something to alcohol
licensing at the premises?


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-08-21 20:15 [#00358929]
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Yeah phobia you're right. But as you can see in my topc
--poll idea--

I was requesting a simple poll with the question. " Are you
under 21 years of age?" This way we can see how many people
are being jipped out of these 21+ shows, and im sure the
poll can help me and zeus with getting into the NYC show


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:16 [#00358930]
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you are allowed to have 18-20 there too, IF they have wrist
bands (distributed at the door upon arrival and varification
from ID) but they arent doing this.. they are making it just
21+


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-08-21 20:20 [#00358935]
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yeah, I didn't see your thread until now.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:21 [#00358937]
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they're IDing anyway, they may as well just put a damn stamp
on my hand...


 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-21 20:24 [#00358941]
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i can't sing it, don't know the words, but i'll hum it if it
makes you happy

hmmmm hmm mmmmm mmmhhmmm


 


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