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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2002-07-30 11:04 [#00330427]
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For those of you who are Orb experts, which album would be best to start with. I'm not really sure myself, and I need someone else's opinions. Also, does some of their earlier stuff sound really dated now?
Thanks Toejam :)
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 11:05 [#00330428]
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urgh..... I don't really like it. Sorry
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2002-07-30 11:09 [#00330432]
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that's cool, Chri5py! I don't know if i will yet, either.
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astralwerx
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 11:34 [#00330439]
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Toejam Your best bet would be to get a hold of Live 93 as it has a most of the mainstream tracks on it Towers of Dub etc.
Pomme Fritz is worth a shot if you like more of an avante garde sound.
Or Orbvs Terrarvm is also pretty good.
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diablo
on 2002-07-30 12:57 [#00330517]
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The best stuff is the first 2 albums and live 93 in that order i'd say. 1st is called "adventures beyond the ultraworld" or summat like that and is a classic I reckon. 2nd called UFOrb which is also good. Dunno about 'em sounding dated, maybe a bit but they're still well worth checking out. Their recent stuff sucks though.
I saw them live in 93 and was so mushroomed out I couldn't move too well but it sounded amazing!!! (I don't do that any more...!!!)
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-07-30 13:36 [#00330535]
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all of their stuff sounds dated now,but orb are good anyway. i like uf orb&pomme fritz
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 14:02 [#00330555]
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UFOrb if only for Towers Of Dub
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-07-30 15:14 [#00330591]
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I've got Adventures beyond the Ultraworld. And i hate it. How anyone thinks this dated piece of crap is a classic of electronica is beyond me. maybe their other stuff is good.
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halofive
from Seattle, WA (United States) on 2002-07-30 15:43 [#00330596]
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OMFG... do you ppl even understand the complexity of orblivion or orbus terrarum? the layers involved?
man you ppl are fuckin dumb. ROFL.
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electro
from detroit on 2002-07-30 15:47 [#00330605]
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do not touch orbus terrum untill later stages start with UForb then go to orblivion then beyond the ultra world
hey there is a greatest hits out there but that will give you you know a hint of what to expect
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-07-30 15:47 [#00330607]
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maybe some people here understand it, but simply don't like it, kind of like i understand confield but don't particularly like it.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 15:49 [#00330609]
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Yea sorry GOD
ROFLMAOtwat :|
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 15:51 [#00330611]
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:D
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halofive
from Seattle, WA (United States) on 2002-07-30 15:53 [#00330618]
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that's right. i am GOD. unfortunatly, so are you. isn't that fucked up?!
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-30 15:58 [#00330627]
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I only got their latest album, Cydonia, and I like it. But I'm also curious how their older stuff sounds.
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halofive
from Seattle, WA (United States) on 2002-07-30 16:05 [#00330651]
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much better, actually. Orblivion is flawless, IMO. sometimes it gets cartoony, but i kinda dig that sound.
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carwash
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 16:57 [#00330720]
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"I've got Adventures beyond the Ultraworld. And i hate it. How anyone thinks this dated piece of crap is a classic of electronica is beyond me."
er - no offense but it sounds dated cos it's 10 years old!!!!!!!! For it's time it was and IS a classic!
I'd find it hard to recommend any early Orb album really - not because I don't think they're any good, cos I luv most of it, but simply because I'm not sure how a new listener would take to it. Listen with a bit of context in mind.
I recall reading a review of Orbvs Terrarvm a while back and it was slated to feck...admittedly it's quite different to alot of their stuff, but it's one of my fav albums of all time - I seriously listen to it every night while I have a ciggie before bed time.
You should try catching them live too - it's fantastic.
Anyhow - you can't honestly tell me Ambient Works doesn't sound dated! Still doesn't mean it's no good!
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diablo
on 2002-07-30 17:00 [#00330723]
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I guess you had to be there. Man. (urgh!)
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-30 17:06 [#00330728]
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Who cares about the "complexity" or the "layers" involved when the music sounds terrible. Perpetual Dawn, Little Fluffy Clouds, etc. -- sounds extremely cheesy and dated. Not very interesting.
The Orb were innovators but come on - they were never that amazing.
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-30 17:08 [#00330730]
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Does no-one like Cydonia??
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 19:05 [#00330862]
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little fluffy clouds is immense. you might want to get 'u.f.off' which is their best-of, if you don't want the whole back catalogue. u.f.orb is pretty good, but i probably only like about half of all the orb stuff i've heard.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-07-30 19:06 [#00330863]
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BIG FAT FUCKIN BOLLOCKS!!!!!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 19:07 [#00330864]
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Ahem... sorry bout that, that was meant to be from me =oD
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-07-30 19:12 [#00330870]
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Adventures is still a classic. Period. I think that Alex Patterson is a mastermind, a genius, not smaller than RDJ.
I would start my Orb experience with U.F. Orb, though.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-07-30 19:30 [#00330889]
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orbs' adventures beyond the ultraworld would be the clear choice for me, still is an awesome album, and i was/still am a fan, although not of the later stuff
u.f.orb is quite commercial so far as the orb go, but i reckon its best to start at the beginning
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Donna Simpson
from morgantown (United States) on 2002-07-30 19:34 [#00330899]
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Maybe you should listen to Juno Reactor/Alex Patterson-Shango
the track, Feel the Univerese ,is really good...
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-30 19:38 [#00330909]
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Damn right! Saw them live twice, once in Toronto in '95, and then for Area One. They (he) are a live act.
And they also have a Sense Of Humour. This may confuse many of you serious electronica fans, and for that I'm sorry. They also have a lineage, something you newbies to "electronica" won't recognize. Samples and allusions and references to everything from Reich to Parliament. How anyone can love BOC and "hate" the Orb is beyond me and begs the label of either poser or hypocrit(ic).
Little Fluffy Clouds is only cheesy because you urchins first heard it on an Beetle ad. If you want to hear the commercial electronic wank you accuse the Orb of being, try listening to KLF!
The Orb is about big fat sounds in the big fat sky, and if you can't get there, I pity you.
Watch Sleeper, and maybe you will start to understand (unless you find Sleeper to be cheesy 70's filler by a lmae and burnt out film maker, in which case I'd recommend Prozac or Car Exhaust).
Cheers!
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Curtis_Man
from Vero Beach (United States) on 2002-07-30 19:48 [#00330919]
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well, when i first bought their stuff, it was the adventures beyond the ultraworld, but some of it bored me. but i was blown away when a few weeks ago i bought orblivion. i like listening to a few tracks while in a car on a long journey cuz it kinda does something to me i think like sync's the driving with the music or something...i dunno, i am weird hehe. but orblivion is nice stuff, you'd like it.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-07-30 19:52 [#00330925]
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KLF are genuises.
Justified!
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-30 19:53 [#00330929]
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yeah, but that was all Tammy Wynette.
Their earlier stuff wasn't too bad, the Mu Mu's and the Timelords, etc. But the White Room was all just filler for the Club Floor formula shite. IMHO
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-01 09:00 [#00333075]
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Uh-oh, here I go... I am probably the biggest Orb fan in Canada (check out my email address), I have 30+ orb cds. I am also a personal friend ;) of Alex Paterson (one T). I have seen him/them at least 7 times (amazing considering I was living in Ottawa, Canada). The first time was Montreal in '93. Alex Paterson is a true musical genius! His music is soo complex and significant! Just listen/feel "Orb Live '93" - out of this world!!! Their stuff was so ahead of its time...and CLASSIC. Orb is my fave band yet I very rarely listen to them, 'cause it's like a sacred experience, I have to be in the proper frame of mind (which is all too infrequent), I don't want the music to lose any of its power. I'm not as crazy about their newer stuff, i best like pre-Orblivion stuff.
Top 3 albums: 1. Orb Live '93 2. Orbus Terrarum 3. Pomme Fritz ...if you're just starting out try 1. or best of.
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-02 15:52 [#00334592]
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OK...I just picked up Bless You (Badord Comp...) and it seems really good so far, and I usually need a few ticks to get into these things...
I guess once you get the lads out of their life sucking record contracts and set them up with their own (on-line) label, the kids really get down to business!
I won't bother with specific track recommendations yet...wait for the new topic!
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-08-02 17:00 [#00334636]
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bah how can you insult perpetual dawn??!!!
thats one of my all time top20 songs..
btw "bless you" is repetitive but great in some parts
Orb-Cool Harbour is excellent
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