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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:20 [#00330180]
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yes I am
Im goin to the WARP US mini tour on wednesday... and I wanted to make some demo cds, to try to give to some warp artists if I can...
...but im just uninspired lately...
I am trying to edit my previous songs to put on the cd, change the EQmix, change some parts here and there...
but nothing is sounding right, and im FUCKING PISSED OFF.
i got one last day to get these tracks sounding the way I want em to.
gfuiohdgvouhvxvuzxfvkjfvkajfvkjnbzxklasfy
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:28 [#00330189]
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hmmmmmm
that fucking blows
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-30 07:33 [#00330205]
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dont worrie they probably will use them as coasters anyway... the best way is to take one as hostage and start using his equipment on stage. :)
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:34 [#00330207]
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ha! good idea.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:35 [#00330211]
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*drools and twitches*
*curls up in fetal position*
god DAMMIT.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-30 07:35 [#00330213]
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Go for it!!!
and if it doesn't work, I'd just give them a cd with the songs, as they are now.
it's better than nothing...
GOOD LUCK!!!!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:37 [#00330217]
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yeah...
im just in such a bad mood right now
like, i go through phases...
ill either be really happy with my stuff and excited about them
or ill hate everything ive ever done, and have no hope
right now its the later...
its truely the worst feeling in the world
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 07:38 [#00330219]
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Do U really want to choose something that you shat out in a couple days as a representation of yourself to a record label?
My advise, take your 4-6 best trax, trim them down, do some quality fading, beatmixing, what-have-you, and give them something under 15 minutes long.
If they like it they will ask for more (remember to include your email/phone/contact info)
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:39 [#00330221]
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just give em' to to them
they'll like them, don't worry
if they don't, take their criticsm into consideration when making your next track.
this phase will pass eventually and you will continue to make great music again.
just wait
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:40 [#00330224]
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no, its not something i shat out
these are my best 4 tracks... but I want to mix them better, and change a few things... like the drums on 2 of the songs, and the melody on one of them. Ideas i had for the songs after I "finished" them
but nothing is working
i just cant focus objectivly
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 07:44 [#00330228]
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Oh... I misunderstood. Sorry.
If inspiration isnt doing anything for you just work technically. If dont actually eventually become inspired while working technically, then at least there is a larger chance you will have your cd ready for the show, even though it may not be as good as something that will have more inspired. Something is better than nothing m9.
Respekt!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:45 [#00330231]
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yeah...
Im goin with my friend, who is also making a demo of his stuff (he writes as well).... so tommorrow when he gets here, ill have him give some objective advice about the mix and stuff.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 07:48 [#00330236]
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I have been working on my demo for about 8 months now. It looks like it will be done in under another 4. Its taking forever, and is starting to feel like a bunch of fucking bamboo shoots under my nails, but I am sure it will be more than gratifying when it is done.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 07:59 [#00330251]
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sorry to burst your bubble but what makes you think you'd be signed to WARP? i mean, look at (and listen to) their roster. besides, they get most of their artists by pilfering from other labels (usually labels almost as good as warp). they're not big on unsigned acts, especially 19 year olds still in music school with only 4 songs on his demo. don't take this personally cos i am commenting just on your chance of being signed, i'm not saying anything negative about your music at all (i actually haven't heard any yet). i think it's objective (ie: not just my opinion) to say that it's not the creative or technical calibre of the artists on warp.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:02 [#00330256]
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well... how can you say "it's not the creative or technical calibre of the artists on warp." when right before you said "i actually haven't heard any yet" ???
and I doubt ill be signed... but nothing ever happened by not doing anything.
And who knows... maybe the artists will just give it a listen and let me know thier thoughts.
and btw... demos usually dont have more then 3-4 songs on them
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:06 [#00330264]
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because of what you've just described above AND the fact that you haven't been making music that long. i can assume, but not know for sure, that it's also inferior to artists such as aphex twin and boards of canada because you're only 19 and have only finished a single year of music school.
i'm not saying your music sucks, i haven't heard it as i said. it could be amazing for all i know. but start small cos warp seriously are not going to give you a chance and you're foolish to think otherwise. there are so many labels in the world, why start with warp?
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-30 08:07 [#00330265]
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yeh you would be a fool to do nothing... doing nothing obviousely achieves nothing.... so if they say no thow it at them recod the noise it make sample it and make a song from it :)
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-30 08:07 [#00330266]
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I'm sure you'll sort something out in the time you have remaining! Give it your best shot! If you don't try you don't get......you never know, dreams can come true!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:09 [#00330268]
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ive been making for 5 years.
yeah, only one year of music college... but 2 years of theory before that, and self taugh with equipment.
and age doesnt have anything to do with it.
if we are to beleive the dates on SAWI, afx made his stuff when he was yuonger then 19
but yeah, i really doubt ill get signed...
but like i said, the artists could listen to it and let me know thier thoughts
you never know. some people are down to earth and would take time to do that.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 08:12 [#00330273]
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One thing to watch out for, is if they hear your early demo, and decide they dont like it, they might end up skipping later demos baised on you name alone.
Altho titsworth, thats not totally true. As far as I know Chris Clark had nothing published before warp ran his album.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:15 [#00330277]
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i dont think that would be the case
i think they are smarter then that
people develop
to throw away demos i send them like 2 years from now, based on a vauge recollection of not liking my stuff from 2 years before... it just wouldnt make sense
and BoC supposedly reapetedly sent demos to warp, one after another
worked for them
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:22 [#00330285]
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*picks ear*
what kinda breakdown is it again?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:27 [#00330296]
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afx may have started recording music at age 14 but he wasn't signed to warp until he made SAW2. warp are a business, they don't sign nobodies (again, no offense to you personally).
i'm NOT suggesting not trying to get your music out there to labels. i'm suggesting the opposite.. but just start smaller. don't waste a cd-r on warp, they're not interested (right now). if you designate the next 5 years to your music alone and develop a fanbase (including admiration from other labels and professional musicians) then warp will consider it.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:29 [#00330299]
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yes i understand completly what you are saying
but im not sending it to the "demo" section at warp studios in London
im giving em to the artists.
if they have time, they can listen, and give me advice
or they can throw it away... but id feel better with myself knowing that I attempted to get some sort of feedback
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 08:31 [#00330303]
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If you want some positive feedback, I suggest taking that light saber out of your avatar. It might help people take you a bit more seriously.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:32 [#00330305]
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um
the people at warp arnt goin to be seeing my avatar man...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-30 08:37 [#00330315]
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I wouldn't hold Warp up to this mythic status. There are plenty of other labels around. I hate the way Warp has become a brand name for 'quality' music or music that commands our respect. There's no need to seek approval from Warp dude. They aren't tastemakers.
They may not be the best people to distribute your music. I'm not saying don't send demos to them but try other labels too. There's no point in putting up barriers for yourself. Then again you could always start your own label. Good luck anyway mate.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:40 [#00330319]
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they already have.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:42 [#00330320]
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acctually... i am starting my own label...
but its not gonna be sold in stores... its gonna be a self run internet thing...
and i know warp isnt the only one... i never said it was... there are lots of others id like to send demos to...
...but im goin to this concert on wednesday... thats all warp artists... so im gonna give them some demos.
if other labels where there, id give them my stuff as well.
and again, i DONT THINK THIS WILL GET ME SIGNED. im doing it to get feedback from artists
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:42 [#00330322]
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-30 08:46 [#00330327]
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Fair enough. But why do you believe Warp artists could give you any more valid an opinion than the man in the street or one of us for that matter? It sounds like idol worship or the cult of personality.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-30 08:46 [#00330330]
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write some of your best music tricks (like snare-rush or knobtweaks) down on paper. And pull out a paper from a hat to get a random approach. When you think it's too random, then continue it yourself....
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:50 [#00330334]
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trust me. so don't put "zeus" on your demo!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:50 [#00330336]
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why not someone on the street?
because this is what these guys do. they write IDM.
they have a closer connection with it then just a listener. they can look at it differently
and why is it that everytime i post something simple, i always get like flamed with all these kind of attacking questions?
the thread started out as me just frusterated at the moment, and now its about me "idol worshiping"
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:51 [#00330337]
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i wont...
but why? whats wrong with me?
you think they wouldnt like me because of a lightsaber and stuff?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 08:57 [#00330342]
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Because if you are still doing that whole light-saber avatar thing, a trend that was started by a bunch of lonely, desparate men in an aphex twin messageboard, how are you supposed to 'break musical boundries'?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-30 08:58 [#00330343]
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Oh god... that came off sounding bad. It was supposed to be a joke. Please humor me and pretend to laugh, then make fun of me behind my back.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:00 [#00330345]
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not just that but just how things have gone for you on this board. whether or not you deserve it you do have a bit of a reputation and that's not what should be on their minds when they listen to your demo.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:01 [#00330346]
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um... playing around?
i dont really think its a big deal
its an internet chat board... its not like im taking press photos and sending them to record companies with the lightsaber
just messing around, cause im bored
here is this better?
but if something as stupid as a lightsaber will turn them away, then its the last thing to worry about... instead id think theyd be paying more attention to all the stuff ive written when im bored
and tits, so these warp people are regulars? because theyd have to be to remember Zeus from the messege boards
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:01 [#00330347]
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Best bet for getting your music listened to?
Burn 100 CD-Rs, write your email addy on them with a marker, throw them (frisbee style) on stage during one act. A few will break, lots will be scratched, you will be thrown out. However, the artist will be so interested that they will at least listen to the cd...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:02 [#00330349]
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reputation?
as...?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:02 [#00330351]
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hehehe
but i want to see the show!
lfo, nightmares on wax, prefuse 73, luke vibert and more!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:02 [#00330352]
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yep
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:04 [#00330353]
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well i sure hope it isnt any of the people that i think are complete assholes :)
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-07-30 09:05 [#00330354]
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heheheh......BOOO!!!!!!
poor little Zeus!....hihihihihihi
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:06 [#00330355]
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could be..
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:06 [#00330356]
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dont mess with my mind
if it is, then say so..
if not, then dont be saying stuff like that
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-07-30 09:07 [#00330357]
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aaahahahhahahahahhahahahhaha
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:08 [#00330358]
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i'm not kidding. i'd say "yes" for sure but i don't know who you consider to be an asshole. at least one of the artists on the roster you've conversed with on here before, i won't tell you who though! hehe. i can't even if i wanted to, it wouldn't be right.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-30 09:10 [#00330359]
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artists? you mean, and artist from warp?
could you at least tell me which artist?
not the user?
and i think its pretty evident who i dont like...
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