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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-26 23:29 [#00326367]
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I wonder if there are very few people who REALLY understand
computers, I bet it's culture that can progress without the
necessity of understanding it completely. It occured to me
that electricity must be the secret reason behind most
"magical" things. What is this other than small units that
have the desire to travel from one place to another? So the
fundamental organizational unit of computers (and other
apparently magical things) ultimately is movement? (How does
this tie in with relativity then, is the electrons movement
only meaningful relative to the position of the computer?)
Suppose we blew up the scale of computers to the scale of
the big clumsy world of humans... could we theoretically
build a working computer using cars desire to move from
point a to point b, to replace the electrons desire to move?
The actual information is the lights caused to flash by the
electrons though right? We could build it so the stop lights
blink to form a big pattern that can only be seen on earth
from the moon, and an astronaut could play a videogame with
a controller staring at the earth's pattern of lights shaped
like a helicopter blasting aliens or something.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-26 23:37 [#00326369]
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how much do these magic things like computers?


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-07-26 23:43 [#00326371]
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Well there was once this episode of Startrek
where...........holodeck.......still inside......etc....


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-26 23:44 [#00326372]
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fuck computers..
um for that we will need a portal shaped like a hole that
accomodates appendages..the disk drives are good for
metaphorical pursposes but it simply wont do for the long
john silver unit..and maybe a resonance unit like the types
used in dairy farms for lactation..and a collection cup for
the ejaculates...and maybe we will have to make the
computers washing machine proof because ..come on..it will
have to be washed..other wise it might start growing these
tiny little baby computers and wont it be embarrassing when
one day you are sitting with your family..and these tiny
little units roll out from the PC module that are half human
half PC and they are all rushing over going Papa Papa in
that computerised voice like that scientist in a wheelchair
who writes about blackholes and other such pornography for
the astrophysicists


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-07-26 23:48 [#00326375]
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You've got the Pear Squasher bug w m w.

They're not magical...

they are the precious things


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-26 23:57 [#00326382]
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quote from "the ascent of man" by j. bronowski:

"We human beings are joined in families, the families are
joined in kinship groups, the kinship groups in clans, the
clans in tribes, the tribes in nations. And that sense of
hierarchy, of a pyramid in which layer is imposed onlayer,
runs through all the ways that we look at nature."

Do we have interest in music because it profoundly
corresponds to the way our social relations join us? Do we
select one part to identify ourself with in relation to the
rest of the sound?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-07-26 23:57 [#00326383]
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A computer is nothing really to do with electricity.
Electricity is just a conventient power source, all a
computers consits off is billions of switches either turned
on or off. It is not really that magical at all.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-07-27 00:01 [#00326386]
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did you feel magical when you reversed braindance
ennadniarb?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:02 [#00326388]
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Too bad birds arms evolved into wings that would have
trouble making tools and such, they're already free from the
restraints of quadrapedalism.

a pinch of mischief

reach back two million years.

my idea is that systems whose parts are linked together have
their own bubble of time, unlinked with the time of other
bubbles... of course in the universe everything is related
by gravity and such, but day/night on earth doesn't have
much of an impact on any other planet for example. So there
are bubbles of various sizes each with their own measurement
of shared time/action.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:04 [#00326391]
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Everything is magical, especially to me, since I don't
understand anything at all, while everyone else just doesn't
understand it completely.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:06 [#00326394]
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ability to postpone the gratification of desire, we instruct
eachother in sentences. Immemorial ages. Cycles are what
causes environments to change, thereby giving creatures of
carbon a desire to evolve.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-07-27 00:08 [#00326398]
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What about non-carbon creatures?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:10 [#00326400]
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I will tell you about something far more magical than
computer..it's those vaccum chute things they used to have
before emails..put your message in a jar..pop the lid on and
toss it in the portal..and off it goes..what amazes me is
how they hell did they figure out the navigation..how did it
figure out..that this is an annoymous death threat for the
company president from a disgruntled emplyee about go on a
rampage slicing everyone in sight with lethal papercuts..or
this is a quote for the yearly toilet paper budget for the
accounts department....and that popping sound they make once
the mail has arrived..ahh..satisfying...mind you my only
exposure to them is movies like Brazil..did such a system
actually exist or is it an entirely mythical invention like
Unicorn Sandwiches?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:14 [#00326406]
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I apologize for discriminating against non-carbon creatures,
like job applications requiring references discriminate
against people without friends.

quote from that same book:

"it is tempting to close one's eyes to history, and instead
to speculate about the roots of war in some possible animal
instinct: as if, like the tiger, we still had to kill to
live, or, like the robin redbreast, to defend a nesting
territory. But war, organised war, is not a human instinct.
It is a highly planned and co-operative form of theft."


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:15 [#00326408]
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ahh ha ha ha ha


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:21 [#00326414]
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Isn't killing and eating an animal stealing it's body/food?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:23 [#00326420]
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I would to thank you all for once again creating this vaccum
in between posts gaps in the stream of conscience in which
i freely hypothetise and raise these important issues that
continue to amaze me like the McDonalds ad in which a little
girl asks her father about where the babies come from, is it
just me or does it seem like the only document in the
history of man kind which displays a phenomenon which can
only called reversed paedophilia in which the child is
actually tormenting and sexually harassing the parent, what
sick mind can envision and create such a thing, does that
beg the question that McDonalds is inherently evil and
anyone with in a miles radius of it's Strategic Tactical
Nervecentre becomes a profit driven monster that will stoop
to any level to promote the cause of the dead processed cow
mongers?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:26 [#00326427]
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I wish I could spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week at this
computer. I can't get bored of it at all...


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:30 [#00326435]
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I can totally forsee the war of corporations... already
union vs non-union stores (and trades I guess )resort to
violence. they union actually hires spies to work in the non
union store like walmart too, to get super secret
information, like the number of m&m packages per square
cubic yard that will best maximize profit... the cubic part
is taken into account because they've discovered how to
levitate them now (but only m&m's for some reason) It makes
me wonder if the m&m corporation will play a big role in
this war by making futuristic levitation war technology.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 00:49 [#00331360]
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I definately recommend the book "the ascent of man".

"a popular cliche in philosophy says that science is pure
analysis or reductionism, like taking the rainbow to pieces;
and art is pure synthesis, putting the rainbow together"


 


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