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Aphex gave me tinitus....twice
 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:12 [#00323924]
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If anyone is going to an Aphex concert for the first
time... do wear ear plugs.. ;)
just a bit of advice


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-25 12:17 [#00323929]
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Tell us more...


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:17 [#00323930]
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eeerm...I am going for the first time next month.
WITHOUT earplugs.



 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:18 [#00323931]
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Yeah, ummm im not a doctor.. so whats tinitus?!


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:19 [#00323934]
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i've had tinnitus for 8 years =P


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:19 [#00323935]
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ringing ears isnt it?!


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323937]
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what you've experienced is mainly your ear that warns you of
to high sound. Like a pre-tinnitus warning


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323938]
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tinitus...is an itch in the behind.. hehe.. no.. its the
constant static/sounds in your ears because very loud sounds
fucked it up....
NOOOO.. dont go without earplugs!!!


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323939]
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yes...different frequences...can be different noises/tones
too


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:21 [#00323941]
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I talked with a dude once, he had a constant sound of a
truck passing by.


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:22 [#00323942]
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When I heard him in 1998 at Roskilde, everyone was standing
OUTSIDE the tent.. because of the volume..


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:23 [#00323943]
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When I heard him in Copenhagen.. There was no tent.. I was
trapped.. doomed... to get my ears fucked by the Master
himself..


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:24 [#00323945]
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thanks for warning me, but I think I'd like to HEAR him.


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:25 [#00323946]
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hehe.. you will hear him . and have a good concert..
Wheres he playing?


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:26 [#00323947]
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ahhh.. pukkelpop


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:26 [#00323948]
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I have earplugs that turns down the volume on the music a
bit, so i still hear what people are saying to me. Not all
people can get tinnitus...


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:28 [#00323950]
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yeeeees!! Pukkelpop!

=o)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:31 [#00323952]
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How does Richard himself coup with all this noise?!
I mean years of it has gotta fuck you up!


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:31 [#00323953]
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I have earplugs too, but I never used them before.
I don't like the way they change the sound.
and they look silly.


 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:35 [#00323955]
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I have never worn any earplugs.. and I dont do it now..
But Aphex is the only one I have experienced this
psycho-loud (exept Dinosuaur jr.)



 

offline vonb from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:36 [#00323956]
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Well. if aphex is deaf.... he can just feel his music... if
its load enough


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 13:30 [#00324000]
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what? it goes away? why, then there's still hope


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-07-25 14:35 [#00324075]
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Funny, I started wearing earplugs to most shows after a
really loud Mercury Rev/Dinosaur Jr show...


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-07-25 15:25 [#00324144]
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i'd advise to wear earplugs, man

ive been to raves and concerts and not been able to hear for
days afterwards.
i get headaches with the tinnitus thing aswell.
i never thought earplugs changed the sound much, trust me
youll be able to hear thru them.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-07-25 15:27 [#00324147]
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i'd advise to wear earplugs, man

ive been to raves and concerts and not been able to hear for
days afterwards.
i get headaches with the tinnitus thing aswell.
i never thought earplugs changed the sound much, trust me
youll be able to hear thru them.


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 15:30 [#00324154]
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hmmmm....
I don't know....


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 15:50 [#00324185]
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You're going to be so fucking sorry if you ever have to deal
with tinnitus. They say that people don't that don't have
it, don't understand what it's like until they experience
it. I know that sounds like a 'no shit' kind of thing, but
it's definitely true.

See, the thing is, that the effets of tinnitus caused by
long time exposure to loud noises, can be life long. Now I
know you've experienced a ringing in your ears before from
something, I'm sure -- almost everyone has at some point.
But if you can, imagine hearing or perceiving that for the
rest of your life. Not so cool.
Wear earplugs. I do ALL of the time I've played in a band
for 2 1/2 years and I've worn earplugs every time we
practiced or had a show.

A couple of months ago I had a hearing test to see how
things were after wearing protection al those times, and my
hearing was normal. However, the guitar player has never
worn earplugs, so he suffers from slight noise induced
hearing loss, so it definitely pays to wear them. You will
hear everything just fine. Just like your ears adapt to the
loudness of it without the earplugs, they will adapt to the
way things sound through the earplugs, and you will be
happier in the long run, if you love music. Well, if you
value your sense of hearing at all.


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 15:53 [#00324190]
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It just does not, at all, make any sense to me why people
who enjoy music so much, don't protect their hearing. It's
totally beyond me.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:00 [#00324200]
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yeah the earplugs i have DO influence the sound. i wear them
while playing my electric guitar, the sound is blurred, not
accurateat all. but yeah it beats getting deafer and deafer,
i guess


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:01 [#00324202]
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you can buy high quality ear plugs, that are custom made to
fit your ear, and they filter the level equally, so its just
like a turned down volume... no change in sound quality

about 100 bucks though... but great investments for
musicians

im getting some soon


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:02 [#00324203]
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Well of course they're going to blur the sound, that's how
they protect your hearing. Cuts out the dB levels. You're
smart for wearing them though.


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:04 [#00324209]
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Yeah, I'm going to get some of those. The lady I talked to
qouted me a $370 though, which is insane. I guess I'll try
to look around for something better, price-wise.

Right now I wear one of those isolation headsets, the kind
the you see people on gun ranges wearing. I've seen lots of
musicians wear them. They REALLY cut down the volume.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:05 [#00324211]
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yeah i heard about those. mine cost me about 10 dollars and
they suck.

what about discmen? i mean, hard to protect your ears when
you're sitting on a bus and you want to listen to music,
isn't it?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:07 [#00324215]
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370?!?!?!

where do you live?

I live in boston, and they are made at North Eastern
University... so i was told...

yeah... discmen... that can be hard... i just try to keep it
as soft as i can, but loud enough to hear everything

except when im writting music... i pump up the volume for my
headphones, cause I want to hear every detail...


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:09 [#00324222]
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Yeah, discmans are one of the main causes for tinnitus, but
I think that's only if you like, listen to it daily at loud
volumes. Plus I know the feeling. I rode a city transit bus
to and from school everyday, because my car doesn't have
brakes at the moment (goddammit) and I listen to headphones
at least 2 or 3 days a week on that thing. Otherwise, I'd
get so bored.


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:10 [#00324227]
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They say to adjust the volume until it is at a comfortable
level and does not distort. That's what they say in the
manuals anyhow.

I know, I was like "What the fuck? Do they do your fucking
taxes too?!" when she told me how much they costed, but I'm
going to look around a bit more.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:14 [#00324233]
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yeah i ride the bus at least three times a week, back and
forth, (when i'm not holidaying, that is), and i bet it
doesn't do my ears any good. it's an hours drive, though.
music is unmissable


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:23 [#00324244]
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they say everyone who suffers from it reacts differently to
tinnitus. Some people can live with it just fine, other
people can't take the constant noise in their head at all,
and slowly go insane...

I got a ringing in my ear after a concert, a couple of
months back. It scared me to death :-s
I was really glad when the sound eventually went away (in a
couple of weeks time), and the thought of having to live
with with that noise for the rest of your life doesn't seem
very appealing... never a moment of silence... always that
irritating sound. It reminded me of rushing water... like i
was constantly standing in the shower.

(i bought earplugs the next day... not really professional
ones i think (they cost 25 euros). But the guy behind the
counter said they'd be fine if i just went to a concert
every now and then).


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:26 [#00324246]
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It definitely depends on the person. If you're a musician or
a music lover, dealing with it could be rather tough.

But yeah, I would imagine some people just don't even pay it
any attention.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:30 [#00324250]
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ive had the ringing for years now. the worst moments are
when there's no sound at all, then i actually notice the it.
i fancy i'll go made one day :)

my hearing isn't impaired at all, however. i hear way better
than anyone i know. maybe that's because i'm trying to hang
on to it :(

:)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:31 [#00324252]
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and apparently, it has actually driven some people to
suicide :-o

Maybe i would rather be altogether deaf than have permanent
tinnitus. I mean I'm glad i don't have to choose ;-) But
still. It was so annoying when i was trying to get to sleep,
and all i could here was that sound. It seems to get louder
as you focus on it..

And when you try to block it out... you can't help but focus
on it anyway.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:32 [#00324255]
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I remember when I was little (7 or 8) I used to hear ringing
when it was very quiet. Usually at night as I was going off
to sleep.


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:34 [#00324260]
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Yeah, doctors will suggest that you go somewhere where
there's a low level of ambience or create some, to sort of
mask the ringing.

I've heard of some people turning on the radio to static to
get to sleep at night.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:35 [#00324261]
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btw, i can't remember when it started, but i don't think it
had anything to do with loud music. i had a terrible ear
ache after my first intercontinental flight, i think that's
what caused it.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:36 [#00324262]
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i actually find the ringing soothing, at times.


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:37 [#00324263]
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Really?


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:39 [#00324268]
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well didn't you ever go to a doctor with it? If it's not
from loud music, it might be something else instead of
tinnitus. I think there is no cure for tinnitus, but if your
ear is damaged in some other way, they might be able to fix
it.

Unless you find the ringing so soothing you don't wanna miss
it ofcourse ;-)

Actually "hardcore obelisk" reminds me a little of that
sound aswell... only less annoying and more beautiful :-)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:40 [#00324269]
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it's a thing that's always with me. it's weird, but it's a
kind of security, routine, familiarness...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:41 [#00324270]
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i went to a doctor last year, had my ears cleansed (or
what's it called in english), but she said it can't be
helped. about the plane, that's just my own little theory :)


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-25 16:44 [#00324273]
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Well, you're very lucky to have your mind react to it in a
positive way.

And yes, there is no known cure for tinnitus.


 


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