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who do you all prefer? Obviously BOC for me, although DJ Shadow is fantastic!! |
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DJ Shadow |
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you son of a bitch thats low man... argggggg ill have to go with BoC but i still love dj S, he has been a big role in my love of music... |
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I think this is a more resonable comparison... Endtroducing and MHTRTC are very similar in some ways, and listening to The Private Press it sounds like DJ Shadow's Geogaddi to his Endtroducing if you get what I mean... |
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Head has caved in, thanks Funkmaster..that's tough, i mean they're both good for completely different reasons, the feel in their music is worlds apart, but they still evoke strong emotions in their own ways..I honestly can't answer this, i've been a shadow fan longer, but boards has kinda been something like nothing else in the musical world for me |
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Er, i'll go with boards of canada, based on the fact that i think geogaddi was stronger than private press as an album, so it gives them a slight edge |
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boooooooc lol ^^ |
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On this one my good phriend,I personally have to go with Boards of Canada....I like their creativeness in their music,of course,not that DjShadow isn't,because he's very creative,but just the way is delivered....BoC!!!!!!! |
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why not both? it's dangerous to keep comparing to see which you like better cos you end up appreciating the music less, thinking "oh this isn't as good as.." |
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DJ Shadow but only because i knew him before BoC. Loyalty! |
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I dunno guys. Entroducing is a hard album to top.... |
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you know, that's a good point... |
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but I dunno, I just can't help comparing things... |
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Dont get me wrong. they are both really good in their own ways. But I vote for Dj Shadow, because he's a badass muthafucking dj. (only Mixmaster and Q-bert rival his scratching techniques) |
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hhahahahaha this one is easy BoC !!!!! no choise !!!, BOC kicks Shadow |
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the shadowy dj is awesome. but all of his work just cannot amount to all that boc have done. im talking even pre-mhtrtc. so although df shadow is great, boc is superior musically. |
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boc! shadow aint that great. |
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BoC all the way. I think they're smashing, I was listening to some stuff from MHTRTC driving back from the gym last night. Very relaxing. |
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ugh |
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shadow..........boring. Heard "private press" a few times in diff situations.....playing quake, chatting &100% attentiveness. Nothing new there......his street sounds are tired, the letter home is too fucking gimmicky and well...it's old. Comparing him to BoC is silly (i'm i not getting something here or what?) .......5 letters: "U.N.K.L.E"...nuff said. (cept that i will give it another spin based on this BoC comparison thing) |
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ugh yourself... |
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DJ Shadow represents all that is wrong with turntabilism hip-hop. His music has no soul. It's been completly stripped by repetitive melodies. You can hear a track of his once, have it memorized and never have to hear it again. Hence, 'Entroducing' is good the first time. After a few listens the realization sets in that the album is boring and has little replay value because it is so damned predictable. Like I said, it's got no soul because the tracks all sound like a sequence. |
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i agree, plus i hate the typical, look at me i am a dj loosers *clenches fist |
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Excessive Self-Referentialism may = Small Penis |
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I'm going with the Shadow here. Entroducing is way to hard to top and for the fact The Private Press is a damn good release. The second half of Blood on the Motoway should blow anyone away. |
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well, if it's boring after the first listen why is Endtroducing still listened to today by loads of people, is still influential, and is still selling? Because what you said is just your opinion... personally I think DJ Shadow's music is almost overflowing with soul... it's amazing!! |
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>Because what you said is just your opinion... < Of Course it's my opinion, but it is shared by more than you think. I'm pretty involved in the hip-hop scene here in Seattle. I know alot of MC's and Producers. Not a single one of them is down with DJ Shadow. 'Building Steam with a Grain of Salt' and 'Stem/Long Stem' seem, at first, like classic tunes. Then after a few listens comes the realization that both are made of 5 or 6 loops that don't change very much. Perhaps his new one is better, I haven't heard it. I have heard 'Entroducing' and 'Preemptive Strike' aplenty, even seen him live. I also don't like how the 'Entroducing' album cover fronts that he is Black. I think the genius tag gets thrown around way too easily. I've made alot of nice cuts using nothing, but samples from unique and odd sources. Perhaps it's talent. I wouldn't call it genius nor do I think would he. >Endtroducing still listened to today by loads of people, is still influential, and is still selling< Korn and Limp Bizkit are listened to today by loads of people, influenced many and are still selling. Genius? Check out 'Carboot Soul', by 'Nightmares on Wax'. He uses similar techniques as DJ Shadow. I feel, to much greater affect. Keep on rockin' |
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since when is dj shadow self-referential? He does that on the new album with "Walkie talkie" but that seems more like a joke than anything..there are a lot of other dj's out there that ride on their own ego far more |
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golgiapp, i'm not trying to be antagonistic btw, you support your arguments quite considerately (without assault i mean) so i hope i didnt come across too much there.. |
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yeah, i think that whole 'im a bad motherfucking dj' thing is sort of poking fun at all the cocky self referential djs.. ...and how does the cover of endtroducing 'front that he's black'? its a picture of a record store...a still from the midnight in a perfect world video actually... in which two people are looking through records..one of them is black...where is the implication that this is dj shadow? im not trying to cause trouble golgiapp...you gave valid reasons for not liking dj shadow..which i respect....except for the album cover one.. |
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dj shadow refers to his desire to stay in the shadows, and not be all "look at me look at me". the bad motha fucking dj is taking the piss out of cocky djs. |
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I haven't notice much self-referential bits in tracks by DJ Shadow. Someone else brought it up. I was commenting on self-referential tendencies in general. |
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I've listen to 'Carboot Soul', by 'Nightmares on Wax'... it did absolutly nothing for me. |
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Also. I got 'Entroducing' based on a nice review around the time it came out. The review made no reference to his race. The CD has a picture of a black guy on the front and back of the album. I thought it was the same black guy, more specifically DJ Shadow himself. Whether he was frontin' on race or not, I don't really care. It does create the illusion, if you don't know he's white, that he is black. Kinda uncool in hip-hop circles. |
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if never created that illusion with me... I just assumed it was a innocent picture taken at a used record store somewhere... and a couple black guys just happened to be there... and, if you look at the front and back, it's one picture, but just folded together... so how can the same person be in two places on one picture? |
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>>I've listen to 'Carboot Soul', by 'Nightmares on Wax'... it did absolutly nothing for me. < |
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and there is also a picture of a white guy on the cover, so why would you suddenly think that DJ Shadow was making the illusion of being black? I don't want you to think I'm mad now cause I'm not, but I just don't see how he was making the illusion of being black... |
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>but just folded together... so how can the same person be in two places on one picture?< You don't know that if you're looking at it on the store shelf. Some hip hop dudes convinced me that if you're looking to buy a dj's album and you've got dozens to choose from. You are more likely, if you're a hip-hop kid, to buy an album by a brother than a white guy. So puttin' Shadow's big white face on the album cover could have been a bad business decision. It was probably an innocent move, but he should have been aware that some people might not think it's too cool. This is all old sh*t, though. To his credit, other than this instance, I've never seen him try to gain any unearned street cred and appear as anything other than a white dude in a goofy hat. |
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yeah ok, I understand what you're saying... I guess the times are a bit different now then in 96... now it seems that hip-hop is more available to both black and white people... I do remember back around then it seemed that hip-hop was exclusively black... |
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>>and there is also a picture of a white guy on the cover, so why would you suddenly think that DJ Shadow was making the illusion of being black? I don't want you to think I'm mad << Nor do I want anyone to think that Shadow's success keeps me up at nights. Hopefully he serves as a spring board for people to check out other non-mainstream hip-hop. His shout-outs in the 'Entroducing' linear notes are a good start. Also, I think the other dude on the cover is Asian. He's out of focus. The black guy is in the foreground and in focus holding records. I thought that was Shadow, I know others who made the same mistake. Cheers, |
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How about Boc vs boC vs bOc vs the whole beige universe!? |
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eeek, close call, I think I'll go with Boc tho... I love calm relaxing music :-) |
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in all honesty golgiapp, before i knew anything about josh davis i thought that was him on the cover of endtroducing a couple years ago.. |
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