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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 13:00 [#00233059]
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Without wanting to sound cruel, don't some people's dialects (words they use and grammer) really make you grind your teeth?
Who's does it for you?
I'd somewhat say Reflex and Such...
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-05-24 13:02 [#00233065]
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i would like to nominate myself for my constant spelling mistakes
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 13:02 [#00233067]
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Yeah...I'd agree with you Ceri. Even sentance structure and punctuation here is awefull when it comes to some people. Reflex is just one example!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-05-24 13:02 [#00233069]
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I hate when i mispell things....
like writing "then" instead of "than"....
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-24 13:03 [#00233072]
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I've been wondering since my first message:
How is my english?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 13:04 [#00233074]
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Some here make a mockery of the English language....and these are people for whom English is meant to be there first language!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-05-24 13:04 [#00233075]
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as long as i can understand it, its not a problem. thats probably there intentions anyway i guess. and some people type like they talk and that....man!
well, my punctuation is shit.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 13:05 [#00233076]
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'their' . . . before anyone says anything!
:)
Damn Microsoft bendy keyboard!!
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ceiling_fan
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 13:05 [#00233077]
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i'm a bit of a lurker, supreme, but from what i've seen it's probably better than a native english speaker (what i mean here - the uneducated masses)
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-05-24 13:06 [#00233078]
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i dont think theres anyone here who i cant understand
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-05-24 13:07 [#00233081]
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I hate Windows-keyboards...i have an oldschool keyboard at home without the three dummy-buttons at the buttom...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 13:07 [#00233083]
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Yours is great!
What I'm on about is like Jedi Chris says, the people for whom English is meant to be a first language and they talk like 8 year olds. People like you and eXXalion have far better english than 90% of the brits & yanks here :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 13:08 [#00233084]
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Addendum:
Jedi Chris' ;)
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chapman
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-24 13:08 [#00233085]
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for me, its a combination of being a lazy typer, and an inaccurate touch-typer! results in no capital letters, little punctuation, and plenty of typo's :)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-05-24 13:08 [#00233086]
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well....I'm of work now...maybe i'll get on again in the weekend.
Have a nice weekend everybody!
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-05-24 13:10 [#00233088]
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bye bye junkykins
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-24 13:12 [#00233091]
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yeah, yeah.... I hate to misspell things myself! But english is not my primary language so I guess I'm excused to a some extent. I use www.spellcheck.net a lot! Recommended!!!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 13:12 [#00233092]
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Even that's not so bad, but it's when you simply can't understand what people mean through shoddy grammer.
The best is when people flame you and you can't actually understand what they're saying :)
Ta ta Junktion.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-24 13:13 [#00233093]
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ok,thanks!
I was afraid it was horrible... and I can't control myself on making mistakes,cos it's not my first language.
I don't notice people don't speak propper english ,Becouse of that
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-24 13:14 [#00233096]
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Nice weekend! Junktion!
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-05-24 13:18 [#00233100]
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"Whose dialect...", Ceri, not "Who's..."
Tut tut; schoolboy error, etc.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 13:47 [#00233129]
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10 Bonus points to the 1st person who spotted the irony!
No one seems to have noticed the misuse of the word somewhat and such and also the capitalisation of such that suggests that "such" is a person...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 13:47 [#00233130]
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Jesus, you guys just love taking digs at reflex don't you?
I don't want to sound like an arse, but i've never had problems reading his posts, even if I don't agree with half the stuff he says
:/
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 14:02 [#00233159]
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Ah, you don't know the reason why though...
Only one person here does...
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NEU-NEU
from Belgium on 2002-05-24 14:03 [#00233163]
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My english sucks but i try to hide it
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 14:12 [#00233175]
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No excuses 'cept I type too fast and make some huge mistakes.
I think there are some people who weren't very good at English language at school (me included) so... effectively, you guys are being nasty to some of the UKers here. I try to incorporate my accent into my typing too.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 14:14 [#00233179]
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"I try to incorporate my accent into my typing too. "
Me too butt ;)
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-24 14:22 [#00233201]
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It doesn't matter as long as you understand what is being said. Language is just communication and if the message comes across then I'm satisfied...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 15:09 [#00233231]
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You misspelled grammar twice, you wanker! :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:11 [#00233232]
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I disagree- for banal everyday conversations a basic understanding is fine, but for serious discussion or debate, especially when typed rather than face to face (where you notice inflections, body language etc.) you need to be very clear otherwise people often misunderstand you.
As unhip as it is to be in favour of speaking "properly" (please note, I am not having a go at those for whom English is not their first language), I think the way many people talk is, well, shoddy frankly.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:12 [#00233233]
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Fair one ;)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 15:14 [#00233234]
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Hmmmm, if I had to single one person out it would be Aminal!
I picture his head falling into the keyboard and bashing keys randomly several times per post.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:14 [#00233235]
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But grammar and "dialect " (whihc this thread is about) aren't about spelling...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:15 [#00233236]
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First time I've heard an American (apart from my anglicised mate) call anyone a wanker :)
Are you irish-american?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 15:18 [#00233237]
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Yes, I have dual US-Irish citizenship, but I don't like to use the hyphenated-american terms.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:18 [#00233238]
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You don't have a problem reading or understanding it, because it is written like a 4 year old would!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:20 [#00233241]
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Yep, I think they carry non-PC connotations. The idea that someone's race determines their nationality is sick.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:24 [#00233242]
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I think in society nowadays, that the use of 'text messaging' on mobile phones, has degraded a lot of peoples attitude towards using 'proper' English when typing. I know when using a mobile to send text messages, it's easier to do so, because the keypad is smaller, but when sat at a computer, there isn't much excuse. It's just laziness, if anything!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:26 [#00233243]
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Yeah, when you have a full sized keyboard there really is no excuse.
That said, I'm guilty of occassionally using recognised shorthand like w/ or w/o or esp. etc. :'(
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:27 [#00233246]
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In fact, in all fairness towards Reflex, his bad sentance structure generally is probably not 100% his own fault, the Americans have butchered our language. He's probably only 90% at fault!
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:32 [#00233252]
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In my town there are classes people can attend, for those who were not very good at english language & mathematics in school.
They seem to quite successful!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:33 [#00233253]
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Yeah, it's funny how people claim the American language was "original" English and it is English "English" that changed.
That's a half truth- During the romantic era, people had a passion for zeitgeist (spirit of a country/people). Part of this was the belief that a language defined who you were. As America didn't have it's own language (apart from the indiginous people's which the white man couldn't be bothered to learn, it regressed to what was already old English. Previously, it had been using pretty much what we use today.
very silly.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:36 [#00233256]
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I'm also a firm believer that it is easier for someone to use expletives, because they lack the basic vocabulary to withstand a 'heated' discussion!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:36 [#00233257]
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We need those in Barry though, 90% of the population are illiterate :)
Still it's a good idea and I think the government would do well to invest in it.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:36 [#00233258]
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You are so right...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:37 [#00233259]
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It's tragic when people resort to profanity as a substitute for wit. Oscar Wilde would want them killed :)
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 15:57 [#00233278]
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I'm not sure that someone 'like' Reflex would take to kindly to the prospect of improving themselves, when it comes to the written word. He'd probably take it the wrong way - which isn't the intention.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 16:09 [#00233292]
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I agree, I'm not having a go at people here and I'm sorry if they took it that way, but if they did- it has illustrated my point of the importance of clear communication.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 16:12 [#00233296]
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at least ppl aren't using !337 (elite)lanuage...
it's so annoying when people use that. you're like "WHATTT?!!"
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-24 16:13 [#00233301]
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Hey Ceri, I know this is off topic slightly, but on Reflex's website the main page says something like 'its all in the REFLEX' . . . I just wonder if he was thinking of that when he ran that poor dog down! ;)
http://zebox.com/reflex/
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