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If love is obviously a passion, one which leaves no room for any real logic based on certainty, and it is comprised of a mutual understanding of a fictitious axiom that others have set before others, then is love really just an attempted altruistic, and mimetic, lie? I'm not talking about unconditional love for one another in the family or community sense, but love as a relationship between two people that involves raw emotions in compliance with mutual exclusivity. Do any of the great philosophers of the past write on this? It seems that true love (riding off into the sunset, happily ever after) are just offshoots of someone else's past experiences with an unreal state of affection for another person. |
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love is like being high 24/7, you see things you won't normally do, in all senses. |
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that's why, to me, it's dangerous, it's just a 'lovely' game of madness. unless you're a psychopath, you will always be waiting to lose in the end. It's sad, because it seems love should have some transcendental capabilities, like the two lovers actually being able to live happily ever after and so forth. But we all should know, in our right minds that the world isn't like that at all. |
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hi Monoid |
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i'm not Monoid, but o.k. |
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what's the matter, snookums? |
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Nothing really, just disappointed with my understanding of false love relative to my situation, timing, etc. It seems like i'm only smart at the worst times in my life, if that makes any sense. |
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i wish you asked what can be considered wrong and what right and Drunken Mastah suddenly logged in |
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yeah it makes sense, but your apparent "smartness" only in times of "bad" is just a result of your situation. when i'm happy (usually when i'm in a happy relationship), i can't make music for shit. when i'm depressed or down, i do the best stuff i've ever been known for (not that i am known, but you know what i mean). but i'm sure i don't really need to say that to you, you do tracks yourself - i'm sure you've experienced this. |
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Yeah, i like being in that state of experiencing personal successes after being sad or idle for periods of time. I guess it's just annoying that i allowed myself to take the risk which i knew from the start was an attempt at achieving blind happiness. It's exaclty like a mirage. |
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mirage is a good call btw |
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I guess making tracks is like making children, you're making something which you're trying to find pleasure in, so the art of making music is a totally differnt form of passion than relationships, so trying to make music with the same vigor when you're in a good relationship might not be as important because you're already satisfied. That's probbably why people are so interested in the coorelation between creativiy and depression. |
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thanks for that haha |
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I would have thought you might have had something more enticing to contribute to this thread. |
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in short, being love is just a word to describe being in or out a sensation. i think it's more poetic. and also more musical. |
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always the state of being hopeful. |
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that's a good way to look at it, a song's compositions is full of different tensions, dynamics and uniqueness |
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20 |
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yep, no different from lust. I can't make out what he says at 12 seconds, ("love implies, too" ?) |
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Takes two to love - it's not unitary. Love is a division, based purely on the selfish fulfilment of ones desires. When one fails to offer what the other wants, so-called love dies. |
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i love each and every one of you. |
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Yes ultimately we are all just big dumb idiots aren't we. |
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»You say love, I say sex.« Elderly woman in an Almodóvar flick |
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being in a happy relationship made me do super happy and passionate music very easily. i couldnt follow the "its a lie", but its definitely very much illogical and blindening so it might just be an illusion that feels most realistic. i like it very much, it gives me faith. |
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A lie, meaning like how children believe in Santa Claus. |
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fucking = love |
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love is a big pile of donkey baws. when your in it and everything is nice its fine, yes you find yourself doing, as mentioned, things you wouldnt dream of. but its in doin these things that loves creates a more substatial rounded individule. dunno bout other people here, but i rarely find someone whos persona captures me to the point of being this daft, in fact i'd say theres only been one. and yes that feeling of completeness, that with 'the one' your life is good and you will become, together, something amazing is a dizzying feeling, but like, it wont last forever ken. and when it is over, love has a an after taste of bitrex that stains like a tattoo. recycle, fucking is not love, fucking is fucking. |
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then i say no its not a lie |
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fucking is fucking = fucking |
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its chemical |
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Xltronic is dead (enhancing Thanatos instead of Eros). |
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we know. |
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its just kinda like a rotting animal carcass that your inclined to go and check on regularly to see the state of decay. |
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i'd say you're correct |
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