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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2010-02-15 07:57 [#02367067]
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Anyone else getting a perverse pleasure from holding off the leaks/samples to wait for that needle to hit the wax?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-02-15 08:00 [#02367068]
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Yes, i quite like doing that!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-15 08:07 [#02367070]
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I've had an erection for the last 5 days.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2010-02-15 08:11 [#02367071]
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No didn't order it..but I know those pleasures
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Rick DiGiacomo
on 2010-02-15 08:15 [#02367072]
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i didnt give a fah
but now i know this the vinyl eva
MY VINYL
byw.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-15 13:14 [#02367147]
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How does digital music sound different on vinyl?
Don't take it as offense, but hasn't a digital record been rendered into a format, say, .wav, then burned onto a vinyl? Or do they have any other technique?
When vinyls was the new deal, the music was recorded live to a tape, then made into a vinyl. Is it that a vinyl, say the Drukqs LP, could contain more information than a cd, even though both the cd and the vinyl have the same source, ie. the wav-file? Theoretically, shouldn't they sound the same?
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-15 13:31 [#02367151]
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Fucking hell you're online! Do a wiki or a whateveri and learn.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2010-02-15 13:31 [#02367152]
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i waited for a smaller thread this one looks cozy
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-15 13:33 [#02367153]
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lol, my internet won't let me for the moment.
and besides, i feel like talking.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2010-02-15 13:35 [#02367154]
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hope yann_g logs in. he can probably explain.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-15 13:50 [#02367155]
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Digital is hard with cheese and tomatoe around the edges and vinyl is fluffy and more salty
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-15 14:26 [#02367163]
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vinyl is nostalgic like 8 tracks and cassettes takes you to a better place cds play better in the car or ipod
bump the bass beatches'
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-15 17:25 [#02367220]
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i think you can have digital formats (including wavs) with a higher sample rate / frequency (up to 192, for what i know). youre reducing quality while recording on a CD = 44.1 Hz, but then you can a have better quality (full info from the better digital format) on vinyl. (sorry for bad explanation--->stoned)
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-15 17:26 [#02367221]
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you can a have, man
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-15 17:28 [#02367222]
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similar story with bit depth (or whatever is it called... quantization!)
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-15 17:30 [#02367223]
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44.1 kHz on the first post, thats it, and im gonna stop now
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-15 17:53 [#02367226]
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I haven't actually preordered this. Maybe I'll never listen to it and have an erection until the day I die.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2010-02-15 18:34 [#02367234]
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i know it's a dead debate but i think vinyl is pretty much a fetishistic hangover. i like a bit of warm surface crackle as much as the next chap but the "analogue is better quality" argument, while technically true, seems like a bit of a fallacy. the mastering process is an arcane pain in the arse, all the deep bass has to be mono so yer needle doesn't jump about, i'm no audio engineer but why bother trying to approximate something digitally created into something it wasn't necessarily intended as, subtle as the difference may be?
(the delayed gratification thing is separate and something i also don't really understand and now i will shut up)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2010-02-16 02:39 [#02367256]
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Hey i'm no vinyl fetsihest at all.... but there's something special about waiting and anticipating the post, unwrapping a package, handling a big-ass peice of plastic and setting the needle down. I only do it for big releases and have plenty of mp3s i loved.... but ritualising the whole experience physicaly gives me a buzz....
When i hear those tunes for the first time... they'll be completely mine with zero input form the 100's of opinions on the material already out there. Sure i can seperate external opinions from my own but..... I'm gonna go all zen with this one!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2010-02-16 05:40 [#02367260]
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yep, i've not listened to any leaks and i haven't even listened to the FACT podcast.
waiting for the vinyl to arrive before i listen for the first time
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-16 05:52 [#02367261]
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ya do that guys, wait it out. yer doing the right thing, listening to the leak spoiled it a bit tbh.
the FACT mix however, if i were you i'd listen to that to get even more pumped. It doesn't forestall anything.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2010-02-16 05:58 [#02367262]
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i think i'm just gonna wait until after i get it - that way, when i'm left wanting more i can just start up the FACT podcast
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-02-16 07:56 [#02367265]
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My advice is wait... about 60 years, should be dead by then so won't have to listen to this crummy excuse for music.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-16 08:17 [#02367267]
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hi, melack, thanks.
yeah, i suppose that's it.
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broken phillip
on 2010-02-16 08:59 [#02367274]
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Porky's Prime advice "Louder the better, wooow".
+ more on mastering
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-16 09:02 [#02367275]
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wow, great link (George Peckham)!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-16 09:05 [#02367276]
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you are welcome :)
but i dont think artists work their music in higher quality than 44.1 khz,
so after all i dont know if all i said is that relevant... maybe the key is in the masterization process, as you need an special masterization for vinyl,
so maybe you can improve there the quality of the music to fit the final format specifications (deepest bass, for example). but thats all blablabla and i dont really know if its true...
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broken phillip
on 2010-02-16 09:06 [#02367277]
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Yeah, seems like a really nice dude from that vid. looks like he loves his job.
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broken phillip
on 2010-02-16 09:13 [#02367279]
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well the bleep releases come with those high quality "24bit / 44.1kHz" .wav files.
guess'n that is what the vinyl will be cut from.
so for your first listen through if its virgin vinyl, should sound better qualityer than the cd (maybe)?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-16 10:25 [#02367288]
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dunno if i got your question, but
if it comes from a higher digital quality format, or from an analogue format, vinyl should definetly sound better, as it allows full original sound wave information on it.
if what you mean is if vinyl recorded from 24 bits/44.1 wav files
sounds better than cd, i guess it would, slightly better, as cd is only 16 bits.
requestion if i didnt answered what you wanted!
+ im not a usual vinyl listener (cd quality is fine for me),
only those album i cant have on cd.
+ after all, final listening quality on vinyl depends also of your vinyl player, as it introduces mecanical inherent noise + EQ riaa, while optical systems work always perfect (or imperfect), not middle therm...
bla!
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-16 13:22 [#02367341]
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i've been asking around on another forum. i'll see if i get an answer there. your "blablabla" (as you called it) will do for now. :D
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2010-02-16 13:35 [#02367343]
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I have ordered it on cassette btw.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2010-02-16 13:46 [#02367345]
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i am deeply offended for you searching for a second opinion...
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2010-02-17 05:59 [#02367432]
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I think it's too damn expensive.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-02-17 07:23 [#02367438]
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let me make it up for you.
here's something that will put a smile on your face.
mr. bueller is not in his chair.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2010-03-02 12:49 [#02369198]
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btw .. i couldn;'t wait especially wehen bllep sent me the goodamn mp3's a month early
So far... so good....VERY BoC-like
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