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offline freqy on 2010-01-11 13:11 [#02358484]
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any video peeps in here ?

ive tried a few ways to convert ntsc to pal but its still a
bit stuttery.

i didn't realise at first but now i see it , it smells. ;(



 

offline RussellDust on 2010-01-11 14:11 [#02358490]
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Do you live in Monaco? Don't asnwer by saying you clean
toilets please!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-01-11 14:13 [#02358492]
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:)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2010-01-11 14:24 [#02358496]
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NTSC = 60hz, PAL = 50hz. 60hz video sends 30 complete frames
every second (scanlines alternating 30 'fields' and then the
other 30 fields) whereas 50hz video only sends 25 complete
frames per second. If you're converting PAL to NTSC, 5 extra
frames must be added for every second of video or else you
will get jittery video. If converting from NTSC to PAL, the
opposite is true. You must remove 5 frames from every second
of video or the image being displayed may seem unnaturally
slow.


 

offline freqy on 2010-01-11 15:02 [#02358516]
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thanks mr twin. yeah slow from ntsc to pal....yet take 5
frames out each sec it becomes stuttery. how silly, we
should have had 720x 576 and 29.97 fps.

thanks again :)

if your ever in monaco and need a toilet cleaned give me a
shout. lol : P



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-01-11 15:06 [#02358518]
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may i ask why you're asking ?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2010-01-11 15:15 [#02358524]
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Yeah, I'm not sure which five frames you are supposed to
add/remove to make the problem magically go away. I only
know the theory behind it, sadly I don't have any practical
experience on the subject.

About the toilet cleaning, you're now my go-to guy. :D


 

offline freqy on 2010-01-11 15:17 [#02358527]
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cause i thought there might be a nice prog to do frame
blending or something? to reduce the stutter, a lovely
program that all the experts use.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-01-11 15:17 [#02358528]
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Can't be done.


 

offline freqy on 2010-01-11 15:18 [#02358531]
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:)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-01-11 15:20 [#02358533]
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nah i mean just why do you converting from one system to
another in the age of digital video.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-01-11 15:22 [#02358535]
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The boring ones.


 

offline freqy on 2010-01-11 15:25 [#02358539]
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cause i hope for it to play on an European tv.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-01-11 15:30 [#02358542]
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as long as the "thing" you are playing ot off is connected
via a euro/scart cable everything will be fine


 

offline freqy on 2010-01-11 15:44 [#02358549]
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so you can play a ntsc off a dvd player into a euro TV?

Is it just the aerial coax thingy that has to be 25fps?

i have some footage high quality footage that is 25 fps and
some shi*e off youtube that is 29.97fps its all going on one
dvd

so i thought to keep everything at 25 as my main high
quality video is 25fps and the people it is intended for are
in the UK. so i thought make everything 25fps.

what y think? am i being too precautions? can all UK dvd
set-top players play ntsc?



 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2010-01-11 16:00 [#02358553]
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Haha. Sorted.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-01-11 16:44 [#02358565]
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all i can tell you is that i have like 3 gaming consoles and
when i had single-chinch-s-video-cables, ntsc games were
black & white, but still working.

after i bought euro/scrat cables i have colour in every
game, ntsc, pal, whatever.

works with dvd players too.



 

offline freqy on 2010-01-12 06:49 [#02358647]
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found a free plugin for after effects works rather well.
far better than before , had a few probs with the warp frame
blend but frame mix works good enough.

with tutorial Andrew Kramer

Frame Rate Converter


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-01-12 06:57 [#02358651]
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If you REEEALLY wanted to do it, you could use After
Effects, set the composition frame rate to 25, then turn on
pixel-motion frame-blending for the video, and it will
redraw the frames pretty seamlessly, unless there's a lot of
fast footage.


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-01-12 06:58 [#02358652]
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haha, I posted before I read your new post...


 

offline Sano on 2010-01-12 07:18 [#02358654]
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Most and specially all TV's made after 2000 support PAL
60Hz, most TV's also support NTSC signal, specially a LCD
TV. You may need a SCART RGB cable, on my CRT Trinitron it
supports color NTSC via the composite cables too.


 


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