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offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:10 [#02348679]
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Are you spiritual?

Who are your favourite philosophers?


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2009-12-03 16:12 [#02348680]
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voltaire


 

offline thatne from United States on 2009-12-03 16:21 [#02348687]
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yes

no


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:22 [#02348688]
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An enlightenment writer, eh?

Looks really interesting!

I read this poem by him and it is really
beautiul!

Have you read any of his plays/ poetry, or are you mostly
interested in his philosophical writings?


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 16:23 [#02348690]
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Yes

Barcode/cx/cygnus


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:23 [#02348691]
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K, how would you define your own personal brand of
spirituality?


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 16:24 [#02348692]
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i am sane so spirituality really isn't appropriate.

favorite philosopher: charles bukowski


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:24 [#02348693]
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lol

Barcode seems to be into that kinda thing, but in my own
experience I haven't seen much philosophy from the other two
fellas. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:25 [#02348694]
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Sane? But I thought you were a Christian? :/

Soz man, I joke, I joke. :)

You know, spirituality and religion aren't incompatible.
Wiki told me.

Yeah, I have heard of him, but never explored his work. But
I will now! :D


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 16:31 [#02348698]
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Kierkegaard, Camus, Nietzsche. Existentialism is a nice
place to start. You don't have to agree with everything said
of course.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:39 [#02348706]
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Yeah, my friend was telling me about Nietzsche last night.
His work makes sense in a strangely cynical kind of way.

I think I might get a 'beginners guide to philosophy' book
or something, then go from there. I got a book on Scepticism
once, but it was written in such a dense, convoluted way
that it took me about a week to get to page 9. I got another
one, which is written in a more digestable way, which I have
with me. Maybe I will read some more of that tonight. It is
still not such a fun read, though, even if it is really
interesting.

I am reading about Existentialism on Wiki now. Are there any
good philosophy/ Existentialist philosophy website that you
know of RussellDust?


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:40 [#02348711]
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On second thoughts, this Wiki article is pretty long, so
maybe I'll just stick with it for now. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:41 [#02348713]
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haha, "phenomenology", what a funny old word! :D


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 16:43 [#02348715]
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Nope. Wiki is useful though.
I recommend Camu's Myth of Sisyphus.

I don't know how old you are, but in my late teens early
twenties this book meant the world to me. It's a short read.
I remember arguing about this book with someone here.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:52 [#02348718]
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Nice one, man. I read about it from the link you gave and
that looks really cool and exciting. I might ask for it for
Christmas! :)

I have never been really, really into philosophy. Art,
always. Politics I took in college and though I was
interested in it, I am bad at remembering facts, so I did
really badly, but I am still kinda interested in it. Eng lit
I am interested in too and study it at uni. I have always
liked Buddhism, but, I dunno, it kinda leaves me with a bit
of an empty feeling when I do the things Buddha says. My
mind becomes too clear and things get a bit too much for me.
Especially when I meditate by myself it is like this, but
worse. More emptiness. When I meditate in a class it's quite
good, though. But anyway, I can't see how I can hold true to
Buddhist ethics and retain my personality really. But as
Buddhism is a philosophy, I just need to find one, or parts
of different philosophies to give substance to my perception
of the world.

Sorry for wittering, thanks for the link!


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 16:57 [#02348720]
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RusselDust, have you read a book called L'existentialisme
est un humanisme?


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 16:57 [#02348721]
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there's nothing wrong with a bit of pic 'n' mix. You seem
genuinely curious and not set out to impress people.

Buddhism is one of the 'nicer' religions and easiest to
understand. Shame it's become such a trend. I have a little
statue in the kitchen. If it catches my eye i'll touch his
tummy. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:00 [#02348724]
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haha, yeah, I used to be annoyed that Buddhist things were
used to sell stuff, without people understanding what it was
really about. But I have grown out of that silly way of
thinking, mostly since I reckon Buddha would just laugh at
the futility of my irritation if he was still alive.

Yeah, it brings luck doesn't it, to rub his belly? :D Is it
a big fat, happy Buddha? cos I got an austere, skinny
Buddha, post-enlightenment. It's cool, though I can't
actually remember where it is... :/


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:00 [#02348725]
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is there a mental disorder that involves becoming irritated
at the littles things, like anything that is externally
offsetting is the biggest annoyance and makes me feel like
punching a wall.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:01 [#02348726]
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Aaah man don't get me started with 'Jean-Sol Partre' as
Boris Vian called him. I don't hate him. I even like a few
things but generally i think he was a coward. I get a lot of
hate for not worshipping Sartre. I accept he's an important
figure though.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:01 [#02348727]
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And yeah, I don't want to impress people, lol. I think from
pretty early on, I have become a bit humble. Not superficial
anyway, I hope... hehe.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:01 [#02348728]
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You an angry person?


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:02 [#02348729]
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Yeah, ADHD.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:02 [#02348730]
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"But I have grown out of that silly way of
thinking"

haha thanks.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:03 [#02348733]
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Oh right! :/

K, I'll take a look at him and form my own opinion, but I'll
take what you've said in mind. :)


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:05 [#02348736]
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recently, maybe due to crunch time with school and the
annoyances at work becoming increasingly intolerable,
everything is boiling right now, i drive at 90 mph wherever
i go and i'm getting older every second and life is misery
and i'm an "angry person" being 20 sux. cant wait till 21


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2009-12-03 17:05 [#02348737]
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i guess

you hear philosophy all over the place, lots of great
philosophers. Known and unknown...


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:05 [#02348738]
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No, I mean it is silly for me to think that it is bad for
money to be made of Buddhism. Nothing really wrong with it.
:)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:10 [#02348743]
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Being 21 is cool, but if you are angry at now, I don't think
it will change when you get a bit older.

Um, I want to help, but I am not sure what to say. Hopefully
you'll be able to chill out at Christmas. It's always a good
time to just be decadent, eat loads, get pressies, see
family, watch TV with family, which only seems to happen at
Christmas. Yeah, I am kinda looking forward to Christmas
this year, actually. :)

Are you looking forward to Christmas, Pulseclock- do your
family make a big thing of it, or not so much? We don't,
really. But it is still a nice time of year.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:10 [#02348745]
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Any particular ones who really speak to you on a personal
level?


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:12 [#02348746]
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here's another question: do you think those who are
interested in philosophy actually live their lives by the
philosophies they agree with?


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:12 [#02348747]
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Stress can be good for you apparently. Take it easy my
friend!
As for the driving. Even if you don't care about yourself,
remember you could hurt others. Sorry i sound like a dad or
something. :D


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:12 [#02348748]
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its more stressful than anything else with my family. we're
going to hawaii. it should be fun but i hate plane rides and
i'm afraid of them.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:13 [#02348749]
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"Being 21 is cool, but if you are angry at now, I don't
think
it will change when you get a bit older."

I'd like to think i changed.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:14 [#02348750]
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i know im a cautious driver but i haye driving around people
who suck at it


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:15 [#02348751]
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Apparently 30% of flyers are scared.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:15 [#02348752]
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:(

Oh, right. Well it'll still be exciting, right? I'd love to
go to somewhere as exotic as Hawaii. Furthest I've been from
home is Germany, lol.

How long is the flight?

Hey, I just realised you can make the word 'lol' out of
letters of your XL username. :)


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:16 [#02348753]
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I don't have a license!


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:17 [#02348754]
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Between 20 and 21?

Actually, yeah me too I guess. I just meant it's not gonna
make you happy when you get a bit older. If anything, gets
more complicated.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2009-12-03 17:19 [#02348756]
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insufficient info on the personalities for it to be on a
personal level. Some quotes here and there, but that's it


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:20 [#02348757]
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Hey, it says that existentialism could be applied to ideas
discussed in Hamlet. That's cool, cos I am gonna do an essay
on that for uni. :)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:20 [#02348758]
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Quotes are fine.


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-12-03 17:21 [#02348759]
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No. I mean when i was younger i was very angry. I've delt
with it. Or so i think.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2009-12-03 17:21 [#02348760]
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you'd have a hard time where i live


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:24 [#02348762]
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where is that?

Tractern the flight is 4 hours, then a cruise ship from
calie to hawaii


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:25 [#02348763]
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Oh right. I only meant between the ages of 20 and 21. But
yeah, I see what you mean. I have never really been angry. I
think missed out on the whole angsty stage, luckily. Then
again, I was a bit of a twat to my mum most of the time.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2009-12-03 17:26 [#02348765]
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Greece


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-03 17:27 [#02348766]
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Hm, that's not too long. What time of the day is it? Perhaps
you could sleep through it. But maybe you won't be able to,
if you're scared. Sorry man, I am not very good with this
kind of thing. You'll have fun when you're there, though.
:)

Have you been to Hawaii before?


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:30 [#02348769]
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no i have not been to hawaii, i think thats partly the
reason why im afraid of the plane ride, cause i can tpicture
anything beyond the plane ride, so the image of being on
plane is the last image i get of my life so far.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-12-03 17:30 [#02348770]
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why is greece so bad?


 


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