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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 02:36 [#00426894]
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Now scientists actually believe in it!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-04 02:40 [#00426896]
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I disagree, the only way to accurately simulate the world to such a level as we see it (unless it was for a very limited number of users- and that view errs towards solopism....) would be an immense array of so many variables that a computer needed to hold it would have to be bigger than our galaxy at least. That is, unless the real universe is both much larger in size and has particles smaller than those in ours...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 02:42 [#00426897]
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how do I know youre not a agent of some sort, eh? :o.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-04 03:08 [#00426909]
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Whenever me and my dad had this debate he accused me of being a com puter controlled character intended to dispell such ideas. Imagine how easy (and little processing time) it would be for "us" to do it via atext based media :P
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 03:15 [#00426915]
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one simple age old truth discounts the whole theory...freewill!!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 03:16 [#00426916]
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8P
Agent Ceri JC...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-04 03:20 [#00426918]
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H he and when people argue against freewill I dig them in the arm. They get really pissed off when I say, sorry fate made me do it.
Fatalism is for the weak, we make our own destiny...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 03:21 [#00426919]
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affirmitive Agent Ceri ;)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-04 03:23 [#00426920]
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There is no fate but that which we make for ourselves.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 03:27 [#00426923]
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In bold no less :)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 03:29 [#00426924]
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There is no fart but that which we make with our butts.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 03:31 [#00426926]
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what about lung farts?
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-11-04 04:02 [#00426946]
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how can you know youve got free will though? maybe you're controlled and forced to believe youve got control over how you are and how you act without knowing it.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 04:05 [#00426950]
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Fuck Fuck Fuck..Fuck All a y'all...
Dont Worry...
I am generally a nice guy..that was purely an an exercise in exercising free will..
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uzim
on 2002-11-04 05:20 [#00427040]
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they did nothing in this article but explain the theory of the matrix to people who wouldn't have understood it from the movie...!
(it's ressembles a bit to the theory with the wired in serial experiments lain btw... the real world exists in some way but is controlled by the wired (a bit like the real world controls internet)...)
http://members.rogers.com/sde1/wang/farside.jpg
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-04 05:23 [#00427044]
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also painfully close to the plot device in Dark City..which preceded it..
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-04 06:44 [#00427154]
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matrix is so stupid... i mean the first part of it is not sooo bad, but then why did they put so much shity stunts and impossibles actions in the second part???
finally it makes it a poor poor film roting all the way down...
yes dark city was better! :D
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 06:54 [#00427169]
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I'm saying this not having rread the link yet but - it scarres me to think that the matrrix could exist, even though it rreally dosent effect me, coz its not like i know.
Now having rread the link - LOL. i assume its a joke, but sadly theirr joke conclusion is shit
"While you think you were born in a hospital, you were actually born in the cold, calculating supercomputer," -
surrely superrcomputerrs arre parrt of ourr mind and not a rreal thing at all, but something our brrain has invented.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 06:56 [#00427170]
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"Whenever me and my dad had this debate he accused me of being a com puter controlled character intended to dispell such ideas. Imagine how easy (and little processing time) it
would be for "us" to do it via atext based media :P " -
thats assuming that if we werre generrated in some way that this otherr beings methods would be the same as ourrs.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 06:57 [#00427171]
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I saw the "us" now, but my point is out therre thats all that matterrs.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-04 07:13 [#00427191]
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thats just a stupid link i assume there is also one saying we are all in jhon malkovich's head (im sure i made mistakes in the name)
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uzim
on 2002-11-04 07:15 [#00427193]
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glass_eater > the very last sequence of the movie, when neo jumps and takes off like a rocket... lol ^^
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 07:16 [#00427195]
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John Malkovich is my all time fav actorr
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 07:18 [#00427197]
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uzim that trruly was comical. also the amazing jump thrrough the small window by the lead woman.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-04 07:20 [#00427201]
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im sorry for my hate of american movies...the last i saw in a cinema was evolution, then i decided it was the time to be clever in my choices...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 07:24 [#00427202]
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youre all a bunch of tight-asses...
movies rule, cuz if you have imagination, youll stop to see the movie-bummers, and instead trying to see the story...
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-11-04 07:26 [#00427205]
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what is the matrix?
Johnny Mnemonic with better graphics.
Life really is this shit. get to like it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 07:34 [#00427213]
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Junktion, i sound like i look forr the bummerrs and i don't. i know a good storry makes the film and thats what i look forr. my comments werre in rresponce to the rreporrt.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-04 07:39 [#00427223]
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...well...Matrix did score like the biggest list of movie-bummers ever.. :)
i like dreaming away in a movie...despite the bummers and low realism...
dude....whats with the "rr"?
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 07:40 [#00427225]
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My fav film is Its A Wonderrful Life
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-04 07:46 [#00427229]
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i see all thoses story and understand them before the end of the movie...thats what make them poor...!
im not talking about the money into them but about their recuring badness!
:((
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-04 07:53 [#00427233]
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...but then afterr all the quality of a film depends on prrefrrence, if effects are what a perrson wants a in a film and therre arre none it will seem shit to them. each to theirr own.
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-04 08:00 [#00427239]
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Anus, hereby, you are rated r
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-04 09:08 [#00427307]
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we're all livin in the matrix.. You tried jumping from one building to another one?
I did, it sucks when you just hit the other building two floors from the top.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-04 09:11 [#00427313]
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LOL. Dunno why, but that gave me a good chuckle...
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-04 09:18 [#00427332]
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You know why I mainly think we are all living in the matrix?
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-04 09:22 [#00427346]
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Because of them fucking breakdancers! I think they found cheatcodes for the matrix. Its either that, or just a bug in the M.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-04 09:24 [#00427350]
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Bang on. Their physics routine has to be skewed when they go near break mats :)
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-04 09:26 [#00427351]
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Besides the idea of living in something like the matrix, I do believe that democracy is a TV-show.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-11-04 17:40 [#00427842]
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Haha, that's some funny stuff. I wonder what the families of these guys think of them now...that is if they even have any.
Strike 1 for Yale.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-11-04 18:43 [#00427894]
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rather than beign a product of machines i believe that everything is a product of me.
thats right i am all your daddy
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-04 18:51 [#00427898]
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"Dr. Bostrom theorizes that everything you see, hear, smell and touch is merely part of an elaborate illusion crafted by cunning computer programmers."
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! LMAO!!!!
ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH NONSENSE IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and that joke came from a scientist? holy cow thats retarted!!! we're all under the power of super smart programers??!? ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-11-04 21:22 [#00428193]
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that doesnt prove you got freewill though, only that you think you got freewill...
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-11-05 02:26 [#00428512]
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I have the solution!!! We're under control of MICROSOFT!
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