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does gender really affect ones musical taste? plus an extra:
how many girls dig speedy j?
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 12:57 [#00367285]
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i really don't see any point of this 'girls don't like AE' yada yada.
i actually live with trhee guys who really DON'T like any idm as much as i do.
but alas, i don't know any girls nowadays. i actually have a bit of a phobia against big girl crowds.
but i'd like to know, how many girls like speedy j? i was once told it is "very male" music. is it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-27 13:00 [#00367292]
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there must be something to it guys are just more intersted in music in general
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:05 [#00367301]
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I hate to be sexist but it appears that men overwhelmingly have passion for music. I don't know any women who have the same obsession with music as I, or any other of the males I know, have. I can't work it out.
Women have an equal capacity to appreciate music and yet for some reason they don't build on any interest in it. Hmmm.
You being female, maybe you can enlighten us? Do you have many female frineds who like IDM or have an intense love of music?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-27 13:08 [#00367304]
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most women listen to music as background music not really listening to it-if you know what i mean at least the women i know
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-27 13:08 [#00367305]
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well i think those heavy metal death metal etc. bands for one attract more males because of the primal, cavemanlike quality that kind of music has. that might be complete rubbish, though.
as for idm, i can't see why girls should be less receptable to it, but then again, this is the case, it seems...
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:08 [#00367308]
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i have one female friend who loves idm and does her own music, dj's and sings.
she is propably my only female friend :)
i consider myself very intensely into idm, although i only try to do some dj'ing.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:11 [#00367312]
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What, while they do the dishes? (Sorry)
Maybe its nurtured more in males. but then what could you call a more stereotypical female leisure pursuit?
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:12 [#00367314]
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thank god we have a dishwashing-machine.
it actually makes a sound that i could sample. HMM. ideas are arising.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-27 13:13 [#00367319]
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gardening?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-27 13:14 [#00367323]
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i must say i was surprised when i went to my fave section in the local shop (the 'idm-ish' section) the other day and found that the spot was taken by a girl, browsing thru MY cds ;) there aren't enough of them
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-27 13:14 [#00367324]
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Me and jonesy disussed this issue a couple of days back and what I told him then was approximately: women may have the same interest in music as a spiritual agent, as man, they just lack the anal record-collector impulse. They may need only 10 CD's whereas I buy at least one a day.
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heptanary
from the place where nobody whants (Spain) on 2002-08-27 13:15 [#00367329]
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I remember an ATR concert. Really hard to find girls there...
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:16 [#00367330]
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well, i own A LOT of vinyls and consider myself as a collector :)
am i some sort of mutant? i'm starting to get scared.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-27 13:16 [#00367332]
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also i think most of girls use music just for dancing
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:17 [#00367335]
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but the love of music leads to the anal record collector impulse (apart from in the case of trainspottery completists who buy multi-formats of one relese or BOC laeidoscopes; u know who u r).
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-27 13:18 [#00367337]
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yeah this is kind of an issue that's been brought to my attention many times, I also opened a thread about women on the board.
The only thing I can come up with is that men in general are more interested in music than women I guess. I mean, I know lots of girls who really enjoy very alternative and rare music (styles), but all together I think it's us men that are more interested in exploring new music.
There's no real explanation I guess.
Also when you take a look at music artists... Electronica ----> almost only men Metal ---> mostly men Rap ----> mostly men Great composers of classic music ---> almost only men
But than there's the more vocally (is that a real word?) interesting R&B, pop and some rock. Often women go for the vocals and not for the rythm.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:18 [#00367338]
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Maybe you are a lesbian, or a man trapped inside a woamn's body!
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:20 [#00367340]
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whoa! that must be it! thank you for helping yo find my true self!
no, really i'm just bi and very feminine.
(why am i telling this here?!)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:24 [#00367349]
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whilst i really hate doing this "innate" talk and gross generalisations - in general it seems that girls prefer melody over rhythm,
damn .. its not making sense anymore ..
maybe its still engrained into the female consciousness, any opinions they would have about music aren't valued anyway, so why have opinions ...
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:25 [#00367352]
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MOOD, people. MOOD.
rhythm and melody are just parts of that.
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heptanary
from the place where nobody whants (Spain) on 2002-08-27 13:27 [#00367357]
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As US3 said:
Drum is the most important instrument
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:27 [#00367358]
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Everyone is bi, they just know it.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:28 [#00367359]
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Sorry, they just DON'T know it i meant to say.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:29 [#00367364]
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:)
different moods then i guess? [but that's just part of music also,?]
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-27 13:29 [#00367366]
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Neetta, tells us more, tell us more. I too think that it is not really true that men response to rhythm and women to melodies. Here, at house/ techno/ d'n'b parties you have as many women as men.
But anyway: loving music DOES NOT equate being a record collector/ a bedroom critic. You can love music and really "feel" it, without being able or having a need to intelectualise it.
Fuck, I sound like a fucking PC pussy ass leftie pink-commie fag here.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:35 [#00367377]
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i don't think one can reduce music into words ..
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-27 13:38 [#00367385]
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Exactly, we can discuss its cultural relevance and references, but what one's spirit gets from the music is beyond language.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:40 [#00367387]
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it could, i guess be argued, that the music one likes, and the degree of anal-iticity about it, corresponds to the social construct, or the social role we construct for ourselves .. :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-27 13:46 [#00367402]
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Its just about whether you 'dig it' surely?
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:48 [#00367405]
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nobody is saying anything about speedy j :(((((
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-27 13:49 [#00367410]
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I don't know speedy j that well.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:50 [#00367411]
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haha..
i think i might head off now - getting a little tired, the post was with reference to the possible girl/boy difference tho - but yeah .. agreed!
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 13:50 [#00367412]
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well i think you should ;)
nowadays he makes crap though.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:52 [#00367413]
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i dig speedy j
in particular public energy no.1 , but a shocking hobby is the pu!!!
only had brief listens to his other stuff, g-spot or something? mmmhh
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-27 13:52 [#00367415]
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Yeah, a shocking hoby was so great that the louboxer had to be a letdown...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:54 [#00367416]
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still haven't listened to loudboxer, but so far, (with respect to a shocking hobby) haven't heard a single favourable review .. oh well ..
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diablo
on 2002-08-27 13:54 [#00367418]
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Hey check this out!
My Mum really likes Aphex Twin. Not all of it, just the chilled out stuff. She told me last week she went out and bought SAW 85 - 92 and listens to it quite a lot. I'm going to but her SAW 2...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-27 13:57 [#00367419]
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that's 1 for the melody/rhythm argument :)
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 14:02 [#00367426]
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my mom told me to turn of the music when i was listening to icct hedral.
she told me that is was giving her the creeps.
i wonder why :)
(it's my favourite song)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-27 14:10 [#00367440]
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i was always prejudiced against speedy j. after all, he was one of the founders of gabber and he did create 'poing' and that other annoying track, 'pullover'.
i only recently learned he went idm after that. i hear his latest is very danceable again, though
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 14:11 [#00367442]
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well public energy nr 1 and a shocking hobby are such masterpieces
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-27 18:32 [#00367746]
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the only females i know who have an obsession with music is for indie rock. you know, vocals and guitars. also sometimes punk rock (and by that i mean true punk, not pop punk). yea, that's what's up.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-08-27 18:41 [#00367750]
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I've known plenty of females who have an obsession with music. Granted, its usually very shitty popular music... I've never known any women (outside of this mb) that listen to idm...
also, I am obsessed with music, but I dont have this so called "anal record collecting" thing or whatever, I RARELY buy cd's, it has to be something that really catches my attention, such as Afx, because I don't have a lot of money, and I'm usually spending it on weed anyway soooooooo =p
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thanksomuch
from planet claire on 2002-08-28 00:49 [#00368169]
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i seem to be the only girl in know who is as into music as i am..... one of the first questions i ask a person is what kind of music do they like. if they can't make up their stinking minds and tell me some thing like "drrr, i duno, all kinds..." i make them list the top five bands they like.
i have been accused of liking music that more guys like then girls, but what the fuck decides if a band or group is more of a female or male sound (exemping singers like ani defranko (barf).......
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-28 05:49 [#00368465]
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word to what you just said except the ani dis, she's nice.
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MAGICNINJA
from G-ville of tha FL (United States) on 2002-08-28 05:59 [#00368476]
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wtf kind of reply are you looking for? some clinical data from a lab or "Well when I was a woman, i was like..., but now that I'm a man its like... with music, Im sure all of you in the same situation would agree." Or is this above you heads.
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-28 06:02 [#00368479]
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Neeta, Speedy J is a classic *techno artist! He gets props! His relatively DjKicks mix is so nice & hard!
*term for electronic music in general
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-28 06:04 [#00368482]
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:)(:
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-08-28 06:07 [#00368485]
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relatively djkicks mix? mind explainin hedp?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-28 06:07 [#00368486]
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This is totally a personal observation, just what I'VE noticed with the people around me. In no way does it reflect the whole population of the world (though it may...)
Girls aren't as good music fans as guys are. I just don't know any females that are as MADLY passionate about music as I am. My uncles have massive album collections that span the genres, while my aunts have about a dozen CDs that range from pop to...pop...
And while there's some guys at my college that know (or THINK they know) alot about music, I just notice all the girls are really into is whatever's hot at the moment. The stereotypical goth girls don't count as hardcore music fans, because there's just something so wrong about trying so hard. I bet their boyfriend's got them into what they're listening to anyway.
Of course there's some very musically educated females around this board that know what they're talking about, but I don't know anyone like that personally. I do know some guys who take it much more seriously.
But male or female, if you live where I do, you're probably a musical knob, anyway.
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