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some people think souls are eternal...
 

offline uzim on 2002-08-24 22:18 [#00363414]
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...maybe
but if it is true, what happens to people gone mad, or
senile, or...?
and not only those — our souls change, even a little, when
we grow up, when we grow old, etc.
so
if our souls are eternal, do we keep our souls the way they
were when we died? that would be bad for the senile! :/
or do they keep changing after our death? (maybe that would
be ok... spiritual things transforming like material
things... after some time it would be like a brand new soul,
who had forgotten all that happened long ago and had nothing
to do with what it was long ago)
or do we have a "hard" part of our spirits, that would
remain constant, and a "malleable" part that would be
influenced by our environment and our bodies (and may
disappear after death?)

maybe
if souls are eternal, i'd prefer the second solution... i
don't want to be immortal anyway, i think that would be
horrible — but if i'd forget about it, well, that fear
would be forgotten too and it would be ok maybe...
that, or dying souls, would be ok i think.
what do you think?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-24 22:20 [#00363415]
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maybe there are no such things as souls


 

offline uzim on 2002-08-24 22:21 [#00363418]
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(if things like souls do exist after death... that's not
sure at all, and can be considered as a pretentious and
whimsical thought)


 

offline uzim on 2002-08-24 22:22 [#00363420]
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oops, sorry :/
didn't see your message when i was posting this...


 

offline uzim on 2002-08-24 22:22 [#00363422]
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(when = as)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-25 05:02 [#00363732]
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It's impossible to talk about souls without an agreed
definition for out purposes

1)The animating and vital principle in humans, credited with
the faculties of thought, action, and emotion and often
conceived as an immaterial entity.
2)The spiritual nature of humans, regarded as immortal,
separable from the body at death, and susceptible to
happiness or misery in a future state.

It seems to be a wrong concept... or at least it kinda
contradicts evolutionary thinking and reason bodies/life
even exist. There's no location in the body of a biological
soul, the brain is the best candidate according to those
definitions of soul.


 

offline Thater from Helena, MT (United States) on 2002-08-25 05:08 [#00363735]
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My theory on the subject is this. The human being does have
a soul, an unwavering beam of light as Kurt Vonnegut puts
it. It is the essence of who we are as individuals. The
brain is a computer with an operating system, and our soul
is the user. Over time the system becomes unstable, or we
become senile. This has nothing to do with our Soul
becomming senile, just that our soul is having a hard time
getting the computer to respond correctly. Everything is
easy to understand it when you use computers as an anology.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-25 05:19 [#00363738]
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People do not have souls.

It is a stupid idea designed to make people feel like their
lives are worthwhile and that they are going to live on once
their bodys have stopped working.

Your brain works by having electrical impulces travel around
circuits. When the electricity stops or the circuit is
damaged you die and can no longer think. You do not float
off to another place/body/dimention.

That is it, you just stop being.

Prove me wrong.


 

offline Thater from Helena, MT (United States) on 2002-08-25 05:22 [#00363741]
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Yeah well, prove yourself right. I could just as easily say
that is simply the computer shutting down, and the user does
float off... the thing is it doesn't matter really. It's
all just theory so... whatever.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-08-25 05:48 [#00363747]
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well things like becoming senile are illnesses that effect
our body .. perhaps souls are just an accumulation of our
life and when the body dies the soul lives on


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-25 05:50 [#00363749]
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freedom of belief, i say


 


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