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offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 22:45 [#00331201]
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I apologize to anyone (especially Switch Frontside) who i
offended in my thread 'To whoever it may concern'.

I did not mean to piss anyone off, i just meant to put my
ideas forward, but obviously i worded it wrong. I hope there
are no hard feelings


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2002-07-30 22:47 [#00331202]
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what? post a link to it!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-30 22:47 [#00331203]
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No need to apologize, it obviously wasn't meant to be
offensive, you meant well.

Some people overreacted, touchy touchy.

I disagreed with a lot of it, but I wasn't offended...
you're young and have a lot to learn, but at least you're
using your brain unlike a lot of the dumb little fucks out
there. Your ideas just need a little fine tuning, but your
heart is in the right place.


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 22:48 [#00331205]
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Nah, cause im just gonna get more stick for it, and i dont
want that, i have had more than enough bad critisms

This is for people who were invlolved in the thread


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 22:57 [#00331225]
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murray- never ''fine tune'' ur ideas on the world , EVER , i
mean it . ophecks i mean no ''diss-respect '' as sum ppl
would say , by putting this , its just i don't think u
should ever tell sum1 to change the way they think.no ones
wrong , and no ones right.

anon


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-30 23:13 [#00331259]
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Some of the things he said are things that a 16 year old
WOULD say...

But most likely, not a 21 year old. Murray's a smart guy,
but some of the things he said were pretty questionable...
REALLY questionable, to the point where it offended people.


Sure, everyone's entitled to their ideas, but I just don't
agree with some of what he said, some blatantly WRONG things
there. Few years, and you'd look back at it and laugh, I
know I did and said and thought some things when I was a few
years younger that I just find LAUGHABLE today.

No disrespect to Murray or anything, I have nothing BUT
respect for him.

If I'm wrong, and you feel the EXACT SAME WAY in 10 years,
about cliques and groups and their stereotypes and all that,
well... feel free to chop my balls of and feed them to me.
:-)


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:23 [#00331276]
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Anon - Thank you so much for sticking up with me

Ophecks - I agree, some of the stuff i did was worded
wrong...ok some VERY wrong i have done a newer version, but
am only going to share it amongst close friends


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:29 [#00331287]
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ok , well for one- are u dillerberatly putting 'wrong' in
capital letters just cause i said no one is wrong and no
ones is right?and of course you look back on sum things u
said when u was young and laugh at them , im guessing that,
just like the rest of us, you were an idiot when u was young
so obviously you would say somthing stupid then and not
realise till now.and if murrays views do change , wich i
doubt they will all that dramaticly, then he can come and
say ''yep you were right . im a fool'' , but if not (wich is
the side i favour) then u better get some ketchup ready
cause ur gunna being chewing on sum spoon fed bollox.


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:29 [#00331289]
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no offence

anon



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-30 23:38 [#00331297]
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We all have opinions, and my opinion is that a lot of what
he said was...

WRONG. He can think they're right, YOU can, but I don't, and
if I DIDN'T think he was wrong, I wouldn't say it. I think
he's wrong about a lot of stuff there. That's MY opinion.

Do I have to put (im my opinion) after everything I say?
That's just a pain in the ass (in my opinion).

I think I'm right (in my opinion), and that teens of that
age have a lot of growing up to do (in my opinion), Mur
included. ME included, too... (in my opinion)...

Of course I can admit when I'm wrong, IF I'm wrong, and I'm
good for admitting when I'm wrong (in my opinion). Trust me,
I'm very PRO-Murray, not anti-Murray.

And mustard is better than ketchup (in my opinion). :-)



 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:40 [#00331298]
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Yay, Pro Murray, i agree some of what i said was worded
totally WRONGLY but i've changed it, ad i think its better
(in my opinion) ;)

And i have to e-mail you and catch up Ophecks

Thanks anon :)


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:42 [#00331300]
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lol , well i dont really think u get what im saying ( but
dont worry not many people do)so ill give up.but b4 i ''go''
just a quickie , why do we need to grow up????(in ur
opinion- of course)

anon


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:42 [#00331302]
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oh so u r alive then murray ?

anon


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-07-30 23:58 [#00331322]
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Murray > I read your thread and it seemed to me like you
were turning on the taps for the first time ; letting out in
a big splurge a lot of ideas you'd been having for a long
while.

Firstly, If that's right, you are at an early stage in the
creative process. Don't give up , look at it again ; throw
it in the bin and start again.... But don't give up trying
to express yourself..

You're ideas will evolve and mature, you probably should
stop trying to be "Writer" , but continue formulating and
expressing ideas , as you do , in an apparently reasonable
and frank way.

I know why you're apologising ; posting anything different
here leaves you vulnerable to attack . And you feel
responsible for other people's reactions . That shows you
are a genuine person.

The way I see it, its some of those you're apologising to
that should be apologising.... After all, threats of
violence against you and wishes for your demise by faceless
cowards on the internet is truly sad, pathetic behaviour.

Big up to you; I respect you're bravery.
I see people adopting fashionable stereotypes everywhere ;
Its worth discussing ; just be aware that sure, we are all
prone to it. No social group is king. The only king anyone
can be is king of themself. Thats the real victory.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 00:02 [#00331325]
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chill man, speak out, people might not always listen, but
often saying these things gets them clearer in your own head


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 00:03 [#00331326]
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That my friend

is some inspiring stuff

thank you


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 00:03 [#00331327]
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Really no need to apologise, Murray....

takes a lot of guts to share your thoughts like that....feel
similarly to Opchecks about some of it but kinda see Anons
point about staying true to your ideas....

Regardless...if any of the feedback (pos or neg) you got
helps you with your writing then it's gotta be a good
thing...

PS....

And Happy Birthday, mate...it's just turned midnight here!!!
:)...



 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-31 01:28 [#00331397]
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murray,

theres no need to apologize!
so some people disagreed with it.... some over reacted.
but u didn't mean to offend anyone, you were just trying to
share some ideas which is always a good thing.

i agree with ophecks that its good that ur using ur brain,
even if i dont agree w/ what ur saying

anyway, IM sorry if i over-reacted or offended you.
(although i think my second post was pretty legitimate and i
stand by it)

if u write stuff in the future please feel free to share it
w/ the board, im sure u'll get lots of usefull feedback
and its always good to start a discussion of ideas....
...in my opinion ;)


 


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