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i do not like weezer at all. I used to like blue and pinkerton quite a bit when they came out. i HATED green, and maladroit sucks as well. i dont even like pinkerton or blue anymore for some reason. anyone else lost respect for this band or dislike them or am I one of the few who doesnt like weezer? i dont like this kindof music anymore I supposed but weezer just doesnt cut it anymore. |
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I agree somewhat. I like the first s/t and Pinkerton but the green album is horrendously bad and Maladroit is not much better. Plus the singer is such a pretentious asshole. |
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i like the blue album... but its the only album of thiers ive heard me and my friends were in a band together, and the songwriters main influence was weezer but apparetnly the singer is a MAJOR dick he said he hates his fans, cause they all want something fucker |
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Rivers(weezer singer)avoids playing most songs off of pinkerton because the album didnt sell well. how could they take 5 years to make green its absolutely like the worst thing they could have came up with. if matt sharp(old weezer bass player)stayed with them green and maladroit would be quite different i think. the rentals are better than weezer as are Ozma and the Impossibles. Return by the Impossibles is what green should have been. I dont really like this like emo sounding stuff but those other bands are better than weezer. so if you like weezer check those out or if you want something slightly better. |
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Same, before i heard the last 2 albums i love the blue album, now im not even sure i like that anymore |
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green and maladroit are unbearablly painful to listen to. i cant handle it! |
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I love the blue album and pinkerton. weezer was my fav. band for a long while but after green album/maladroit (i have both), i have totally lost all respect for the band they become. i still like the first 2 tho, and will forever. |
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become = became, stupid little nitty gritty grammar rules! ;) |
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I think Maladroit has some rockin songs on it man. Did I trigger this thread with my fav. music thing? I'm sorry! :( |
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Most of the bands I enjoyed when I was a wee lad no longer appeal to me for one reason or another. The only group from my youth that I still love are the Chili Peppers. I was ready for dissapointment upon my first listen to 'By the Way'(their new album) but was instead bitch-slapped in the face and knocked down the stairs. I honestly think it's their best record, certainly one of the best albums I've heard in the past two years. Lyrically as well as musically, they've really got it together. |
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yeah I like the By the Way album. |
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it's nice to see another Impossibles fan on this board. they're one of my all time favorite bands (though i did like anthology and 4 song brick bomb more than return) |
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ehm, what's so horrible about the green album then? I must say i quite liked it. At the time of it's release i was really caught by their "hash pipe" single... which, to me, still contained all the classic weezer-trademarks, but it also sounded exciting and new... i loved that song! None of the other tracks were quite that good, but i still enjoyed it lots :-) By the Way is another good one by the RHCP, i agree. Even though Anthony Kiedies has one of the worst singing voices ever... but they've got john frusciante... what else can i say? Possibly the best guitar-player alive today :-o Anyone else here who LOVES his solo-album? (Niandra LaDes and Usually Just A T-Shirt, that's what it's called). One of my favourite albums of all time. |
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i haven't heard maladroit (except for a demo of 'take control, which i liked) or the green album, i have the 'buddy holly' though, and this is one of the greatest pop/rock songs ever (and a v. cool video as well). that cd also has 'my name is jonas', 'surf wax america' and 'jamie' on. they all kick ass. so im not going to buy any more weezer (cept maybe pinkerton) so that they don't ruin my estimation of them... |
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First album GOOD! Second album BAD! Third album GOOD! (Track 9!) Fourth album INDIFFERENT! |
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2nd album bad?! and 3rd good? there isnt any way its possible to like green more than pinkerton but whatever. by the way by rhcp has to be the worst song of theirs i have ever heard. its almost as bad as Green cd Weezer. maybe the other songs on it are better but I hated that song first time i heard it. |
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Anthony Kiedies has one of the worst singing voices ever? What organs do you use to hear? ... I do agree with you about John Frusciante however. His genius is particularly evident on 'Don't Forget Me' off of By the Way.. That's probably my favorite track on the album. That and the Zephyr Song. Niandra LaDes and Usually Just A T-Shirt is the name of his solo endeavor? I thought it was something like, 'Recording Off of just Water for 6 Days'... Anyway, what does it sound like? Does he sing too or is it entirely instrumental? |
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I still think Anthony can't sing! He was pretty good at songs like "give it away", but on californication there were already lots of songs where he tried to sing "proper"... and he just can't do that! On the new one it is even worse. I still think it's probably their best album, because of the musical genius, but Anthony Kiedis really gets on my nerves. He hardly puts any emotion into his voice and he sings so "flat" most of the time. For instance "can't stop" is one of the most exciting guitar-songs i heard in a long time, but Anthony's voice over it just sounds so bored and uninterested :-/ The ending of that song (where he sings a capella) is just embarrasing in my mind! |
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blue album is great to play along with, shame about the last song. green album rocks and is pretty happy, which is good. there is enough depressing music already |
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don't forget me is another brilliant example of John Frusciante's talent :-) It sounds like he almost wrote this entire album by himself! So many typical frusciante melodies and guitarsolos. "to record only water for 10 days" is already his third solo-album. I still haven't heard it yet... but apparently he uses lots of synthesizers instead of guitars. "Niandra LaDes..." was his first solo-album (the 2nd one is very rare, haven't been able to find it yet). It sounds very confused and unfinished... i can see how many people think it's just the ramblings of a heroin-addict (he made this album in his "dark" years when he had left the RHCP), but when you listen to it very often (like i did), you start to see how it really is awesome! Sounds more inspired than most of my other albums put together! There are some instrumental tracks, but he also does lots of singing... totally out of key, and VERY unsteady... but very emotional and well... just moving i think (he sings MUCH better than Anthony ;-) ( The song "dosed" sounds like it could have been on one of his solo-albums. Only his solo stuff is much more abstract and less acceptable.. you really have to take the time to get into it (but it pays!) |
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if you like john's guitarplaying it's worth checking out! From the top of my head i'd recommend the songs "as can be", "your pussy's glued to a building on fire", "skin blues" & "mascara". The last 13 tracks on the album are just labeled: "1-13 untitled", so i'm not sure about those... some of those untitled tracks are amazing as well. |
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also the song "curtains" almost makes me cry!!!!! But he plays the piano instead of his guitar. Just think... the RHCP made bloodsugarsexmagik... then john left them and they made that horrible album with dave navaro... and immediately after john rejoins the band they release brilliant cd's like Californication and By The Way again ;-) If they listed all the credits properly, i bet we'd see that John writes more than 80% of their songs! |
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yes but his guitar playing sounds the same on every rhcp single (i dunno about the albums). that's cheap, imo. there's no progress |
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You have a point there netlon... but... well... i still can't get enough of it ;-) I just want to hear as much of it as possible. I suspect the other 3 chili-peppers also have something to do with it. John is always talking about how he wants to move forward, but the other 3 members seem to enjoy their succes much more, and probably wanna stick to their winning formula. It would have been interesting if John would have been playing in a somewhat underground and more experimental band... but we'll never know what that would have sounded like |
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I'll definately keep an eye peeled for Frusciante's solo work. I don't understand how you can find Kiedis's voice uninspiring and dry though.. I mean, how the hell can you enjoy their records but loathe his voice so much? And I don't think he tried to make his voice sound more 'proper' on their latter albums, I think it has naturally become more sincere and refined with age. It sounded very sloppy and whimsical on their earlier records.. I much prefer the current style. |
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(back on the topic), i was really into blue and pinkerton when they first came out...in fact, for a year i think they were some of the few thinhs i ever listened to, but then after pinkertone they broke up for some time and i think i moved on musically, ye know?....so by the time they came back with green, and now with maladroit i´m just far away from listening to them. ALTHOUGH, everytime i pop up the blue album i get real happy, it´s such a good record. |
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hm... i haven't heard of weezer for quite some time, i always sorta liked they're music, and i guess i still like all the songs that got on mtv (i never bought any cds, and i don't listen to the radio) |
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im still happy I have the 8000th Maladroit even though it sucks |
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I used to like Weezer a lot. Then the waiting for their third album let me move away from them a bit, then right before it came out, it became the favorite band of the type of people I don't like. I don't believe in boasting about how you are a band's fan. How good they are is alright, but that you are a fan, no. I just didn't want to be related to the emo type kids, who in my eyes, I see crying their eyes out when singing around the fire with acoustic guitars, about their emotions. The new green album sucking ass didn't help and so even though I liked the older cds, I find it hard to listen to them now. One of kids I know who jocks the band did tell me how Rivers went into depression because the second album didn't sell as good. I don't want to say that I listen to a guy who is a big pussy and has a weak ass emotional stability like that. Fuck them for selling out. |
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i think weezers pretty cool pinkerton and blue album were great! maladroit was alright and green album blew. |
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okay "proper" was probably the wrong term. What i meant was that he used to do more of a "rap-singing", kinda thing. But on the last 2 albums his style has become more and more melodic... almost no rapping anymore, and just plain singing. And I just don't think he can do that. The RHCP could be my favourite rockband in the world if they had a different singer. But i guess it's just me that has this problem with anthony ;-) I remember when i just bought "californication" this bothered me very much (just like now, when i have just bought 'by the way'). After a couple of weeks i kinda get used to it i guess. I still don't like his voice much, i concentrate more on the music, and learn to accept his voice. I must confess though that his lyrics are getting much better lately! And about weezer... i read in an interview that after pinkerton their recordlabel had forgotten to dump them ;-) They needed to make some financial cutbacks, and were dumping lots of artists. But they forgot to dump Weezer :-p So years later when Weezer called them to say: "hey we have a new album ready", the recordcompany was really surprised to learn the band was still signed to them (and happy i should imagine, since the succes of the green album). I just can't understand why all you guys hate it so much, i love that album! |
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the green album was ok... Butthe problem with that album is that after track 4 or 5 the songs starts to sound almost the same... there are some b-sides out there that are 10 time better then the 5 last songs on that album... have you heard "teenage victory song"? i cant understand why they didnt put it on the album... it could have been a new "buddy holly". . |
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sorry bout my bad typing...but it is this damn keyboard...arghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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i have not heard those b-sides that you talk about... sounds interesting! They should release a b-sides and rarities compilation then :-p The green album is only half an hour long anyway, it doesn't even allow me enough time to get bored of it. And actually i like the last couple of songs aswell. "knock-down drag-out" sounds to me like a fresh start for the 2nd half of the album (that song rocks!). And basically i like the next 3 songs as well... only the last track could have been better. |
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blue album: great!!!!!!!!!!!! pinkerton: not that great as the blue.but great! green album: not that great but some ! maladroit: better than green..a few really great songs... buy it....good buy |
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the last song could have been teenage victory song... |
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haven't heard maladroit yet! I'll check it out :-) I do think there is something to be said for not just putting crap leftovers from the album as b-sides on the singles... why shouldn't a band record some extra top-quality songs as b-sides? I don't really buy alot of singles anymore, but it used to annoy the hell out of me when there were a couple of weird tracks on there that were obviously unuseable leftovers from the album. |
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if you want some b-sides with weezer, try: |
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i think you have to rename the files to mp3.. |
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oh, the computer i'm using for this summer doesn't even have a proper soundcard :-( I'll check it out when the academy opens again :-) Thanks for link! |
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