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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-07-26 05:14 [#00325125]
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no more. i'm afraid they're having a heavy influence on the way i handle friendships and general relations with people.
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:15 [#00325130]
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well i have to say congrats...
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-26 05:15 [#00325132]
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BOOOO !!!!!!! drugs are good.....mmmkkkkaaaaayyyyy....
p.s. i am very antisocial... i have been known to beat up people that try to be my friends
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-07-26 05:16 [#00325133]
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That reminds me of my friend, but since we are friends we spoke to him about it, even though he kinda lets it control him we still keep him in check, you know
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:16 [#00325134]
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cool man!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-26 05:19 [#00325144]
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i cant see afxNUMB giving up, with her avatar ;-)
yeah, well done cygnus. I've never done any drugs so i cant really have an opinion on them, but well done for taking control of your life :D
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:21 [#00325150]
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I havn't smoked bud for over a month now, and it really isn't nearly as difficult as I thought it would be... of course I am drinking alot more now ;)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-26 05:22 [#00325152]
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drugs arent necessarily bad. it's the people who cant do drugs with moderation that is the problem imo.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-26 05:22 [#00325155]
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wtf happened to this board whilst i was away.... it seems that i am the only one that is pro drugs.... shit.... are we getting members from corporate_slave.com MB in here or what ?
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-07-26 05:23 [#00325158]
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I enjoy smoking,I wont give it up only if im getting a job thats taking a blood test----I dont over due my habit.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-26 05:24 [#00325160]
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can you state the reasons for your being "pro-drugs"?
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:24 [#00325161]
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not at all, it's refreshing to see many different views on the board
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-26 05:25 [#00325162]
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i dont give a shit about drugs really, just aslong as the people dont hassle me and attack me in a park again while getting high on them!
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:25 [#00325163]
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I love smoking, but I love my freedom more, and thats what it's come down to for me
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:31 [#00325176]
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i never did drugs b4, but i'm glad u made the decision u did! =)
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MAGICNINJA
from G-ville of tha FL (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:32 [#00325177]
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Yeah, I used to have a heroin addiction. Not anymore. Say, does anyone want buy a stereo, or maybe a bike? Just tell me what you'll pay for and I can get it for you.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-07-26 05:33 [#00325180]
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You already have freedom, you live in the USA----lets smoke to that!
But serisouly, what does one thing have to do with the other?
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-07-26 05:34 [#00325182]
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Who did you steal it from?
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:35 [#00325183]
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I've been convicted of possesion of marijuana with intent to distribute and now have random UA's dropped... if ones dirty I go to jail... so yeah, they happen to have alot to do with eachother unfortunatly, in marijuana happens to still be illegal in case you forgot
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MAGICNINJA
from G-ville of tha FL (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:37 [#00325186]
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IFL, I'm just playing. I'm not into more than blazing once in a while and drinking.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-26 05:37 [#00325188]
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CORTEX i am pro drugs cause they are just great in moderation... .that can enhance every feeling.... with a dramatic increase in the fun factor.... as i mentioned in moderation... and using the right one... i think there should be far more info on them to prevent unexperianced people buying the wrong ones (or shit ones like various denominations of X and speed LSD etc.... that have 90% over over ultra harsh chemicals) and ending up dead.... there is a hell of a lot more i want to say but its boaring to read....... so my thumb is up for drugs.... but not that inhalation shit !!!!.... thumbs down ... wtf is up with that ?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-07-26 05:45 [#00325207]
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it's all just an illusion
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-07-26 05:46 [#00325209]
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you really aren't enhancing any feeling, you're just dumping shit in your brain to make you think it's actually better than it is.
not trying to diss or anything, but it's not for my anymore.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-26 05:52 [#00325214]
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well if you had a problem thats great that you are getting over it.... congrats but i still stand by my previous statements.... and for me its very good.
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-26 05:55 [#00325218]
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good for you! i wont say i wont take a puff once in awhile, but i dont smoke up regularly.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-26 06:52 [#00325273]
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well cygnus, if telling yourself that helps you quit, then i say cheers mate, but i believe it does enhance what you feel, not what is actually happening, but definately what you perceive/feel.
but congrats on quittin man, good luck to you. =)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-26 06:54 [#00325277]
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oh damn, i love your old but new avatar.
and by the way, what i said was in reference to my experience with weed, it may be different for you depending on which drugs you've used. ;)
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-26 07:19 [#00325294]
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yep.... i think i am the one and only pro-drug person on this board... damn
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-26 07:24 [#00325296]
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nah, I am, as long as its in kept under control. I smoke bud a lot and dont do any other drugs, but I leave it up to the individual to decide which drugs he/she will/not try. :)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-07-26 07:27 [#00325298]
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Its so stupid to be pro or anti drug. instead be informed.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-07-26 07:35 [#00325312]
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I've decided to cut back on weed a lot ... too much money and too many squandered nights when I could've done something productive.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-26 07:38 [#00325316]
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reflex, i think you are right. that is probably the most sensible thing I have ever heard in regard to drugs...
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eXmachina
from Sydney (Australia) on 2002-07-26 07:52 [#00325328]
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i love listening to afx stoned.
mmmmm
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-26 18:39 [#00326084]
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Why does everybody feel the need to tell the whole world (or at least this mb) that:
a) they've stopped taking drugs b) drugs are bad. c) people who do drugs are bad d) drugs are morally wrong e) peolpe who do drugs are morally wrong f) do/don't take drugs
a) is your own personal choice and has nothing to do with the rest of us, tyvm
b) - e) are all sweeping general (and generally uninformed) opinions and are useless and confusing to those who expect to gain from accepting these statements
f) anyone who dictates to others is an egomaniac who must think the rest of the world unable to make decisions on their own.
Having said all that, I now present mho on: Drugs.
Drugs are available, despite every attempt of the government to inhibit and prohibit their general distribution. This is because drugs can be a life affirming experience, a life numbing experience, or a life ending experience, depending on what the coinsumer desires. While the government tries to stop the "illegal" distribution of "controlled" substances, it gives patents to various Corporate Entities for other substances that are as harmful as anything that is "illegally" consumed. And I'm not just talking about drugs. Any industrial chemeical that reacts to the environment should be a controlled substance, from cigarettes to gasoline to dry cleaning chemicals to factory waste materials.
I do not enjoy inhaling car exhaust I do enjoy inhaling marijuana smoke I do not enjoy wierd haze halo around the sun on smoggy days
I do enjoy the dancing tendrils of light around the moon after a hippie-flip while listening to downtempo from the second stage
I don't enjoy the list of additives and colourings on the side of "food" labels, and I shudder to think about the unlisted materials...
I do enjoy the spite I shell to the government and "law" makers by supporting the underground economy.
The "war" on drugs is a war on the citizenship of the world and you can't win a war against your own army. Education and legalizati
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-26 19:35 [#00326117]
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"Why does everybody feel the need to tell the whole world (or
at least this mb) that:..."
If anything I think its because drugs are a pretty common topic on this message board and people have the right to their opinion.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-26 21:52 [#00326216]
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I have better things to do than take drugs. My brain is too good to be artificially manipulated. The day I need drugs to entertain myself is the day I declare ''PERSONAL BORINGNESS'', if there IS such a thing.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-27 08:36 [#00326862]
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sorry, but what do u mean "artificially manipulated"? as opposed to stimulating it w/ good music?
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-07-27 12:03 [#00326985]
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You not even going to have a smoke?? Does not compute ...... &^"%%"
Joints a good, just don't bong every day
=oD
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-27 12:20 [#00326988]
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steamtank is goin to have a lond drugs-break... too many joints smoked recently... sellin the rest of stuff he has... and havin holidays....
btw music is my drug
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-27 12:21 [#00326989]
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lond=long
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-07-27 14:08 [#00327016]
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I'm crazy enough without drugs so I don't think it'll have a positive effect on me. I'm very curious about it though, maybe I could use it to escape normal life...
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-07-27 16:16 [#00327076]
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The mentality of many people on this board makes it not surprising that one of #1 ways humans die in the world is a 100% COMPLETELY preventable disease.
You heard of AIDS? It's a shared disease, you can not share it if you have it, and it would go away, but people don't.
You make choices, sometimes you get fucked into bad ones, but choices led to those choices as well. Sex is a choice, and it has a lot of bad shit around it.
Drugs are the same way, sometimes it is fun, most time it is shitty for other people around you, and sometimes you die.
Those are risks people are willing to take because of one thing, INSTANT GRATIFICATION.
Drugs (prescription ones aside) don't help your future, it's an escape now, it can lead to pleasure, pain, death, whatever.
There are risk, a fuckload less risk in chilling and listening to music with friends than all dropping E and rolling.
But guess what, kids want to "escape" they want to push back, and they want pleasure NOW.
That's why sex is rampant, and the shit that comes with it, STDs, AIDS, keep killing people. You won't stop people from having sex, even if sometimes the consequence is death.
You won't stop people from doing drugs, even if the consequence is death, cuz USUALLY, you don't die, and the high is worth the risk man! Get me out of this world to planet trip!
I can sit here and yell all I want about how dumb your choices are because logic and rational, things this world is founded on, would prohibit you from ever making the choice to use drugs in light of the POSSIBLE consequences.
It's called a ME ME ME mentality, and INSTANT GRATIFICATION. All drug users are the same in that regard, that's a shitty character trait, and I can yell as much as I want about how yellow that is.
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-29 02:07 [#00328584]
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ME ME ME?
But I share my stash!
If people use drugs as an escape, it suggests that their original situations suck and are toxic to begin with. People die and are out of control and make selfish choices regardless of whether they're on drugs or not.
Instant gratification creates a consumerist world where you pay to wear the trendiest clothes that were sewn by 12 year olds for less than a meal a day. It creates class structure within societies, and between countries. Do you know what's going on in Ughanda, Somalia, or the Congo? Do you care? Does it affect you? Is this because you are selfish?
My friends and I all take care of each other. We're all aware of what we are doing, and we do it in a safe and controlled environment. We have healthy, trusting relationships and know each other well enough to help and engage each other on the levels we find ourselves on. The last big festival I went to there were many (most, in fact) there who were rollicking in the fits of ecstatic bliss and mushing to their hearts content, and no one else was the least bit miserable because of it. This is beacuse of a common social decision to allow us to experiment with our own perseptions and identities. This is HEALTHY and NATURAL. It may even be evolutionary...but thats another topic altogether.
Any deaths related to E (or any other drug) tend to be related to the fact that the MDMA was spiked with PCP, the heroin was "too pure", etc. If the government would offer to tax and control the quality and availability of these substances (like they do with alcohol and tobacco) they'd make tonnes of money and we'd have better and safer drugs.
But no...they don't.
Those selfish bastards!!!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-29 02:58 [#00328677]
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good call.
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giant_robot7
from Davis (United States) on 2002-07-29 12:11 [#00329082]
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beautifully put.
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