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Just wondering if you guys reckon they are any good. I loved 'em. Shame they had to split. boohooo! |
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the screaming got on my nerves there was some good ideas though but the whole communist thing was just crap |
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I like Tom Morello. it would be really interesting to get into a studio with him. bet he's got some real good ideas. |
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First record great! Second record sameish! Third record identical! Civilian demos indifferent! |
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bah, i kidan liked some stuff like bulls on parade, but it got old and anoying FAST |
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I thought the idea of combining politics with music was naïve - most of the kids couldn't care less what the message was. didn't like them musically either. boring. |
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when I was 16 I thought they fucking rocked! I havent listened to them in years though, maybe ill go dig out their albums, I think I heard a shot! YEAH! (as I sit in my dressing gown in front of the comp wrapped in a blanket sipping coacoa.) |
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The one thing about Rage is that they started everything that you hear in "nu-metal" today, along with Faith No More. So this is something to hold against them =oD |
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Wasnt zach delarocha going ot do a collab with DJ Shadow or someting? |
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Jarworski: just have to say this - love the Bruce Campbell pic. BRUCE ROCKS! |
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zack de la rocha collabo with roni size is quiete weak... but i ve veard about tom morello collaboration with atari teenage riot... could be interestin. |
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rage against the coffee machine |
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They had 2 good cd's. then they did that cover of Just Kill a Man. They ruined that song... |
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i ruined it too. we all did. :( |
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I LOVED Evil Empire... their debut was good, too. Hell, their third was great, too. Damn, I forgot how much I like that band! Used to love them back in grade 10. Haven't listened to them in ages... Tom Morello is pretty damn good. |
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RATM was rad, and for those who didn't bother to delve intothe political intentions of the tunes, there was some all around killer cross-platform musik going on there. you had to be around when it was happening to fully appreciate it's impact. RATM minus zach teamed up w/chris cornell, of soundgarden for an album. it is recorded, and they aren't sure what they are going to do, because once they left the studio, the four brokeup! i think i'm on the wrong message board. aside from taoist blockade, i think i'm one of the few who likes to rawk out! |
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tons of people like rock on this board... and they're back with cornell now. apparently. boink. |
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theyre decent but i dont know about this political music on a major label. it kind of defeats the purpose of them even talking about politics. theyre saying down with these corporations and then theyre on sony. theyre contradicting. |
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i believe it is called 'using the medium.' quite smart actually! Caught between my culture and the system. genocide. if ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face! if we don't take action now, we settle for nothing later. if we settle for nothing now, we'll settle for nothing later. werd. jawarski: i said rawk, not top forty. creed, lit, slipknot, new marilyn manson, etc=top 40 'they're just victims of the inhouse driveby. you say jump! they say how high?' werd. CC back with 3/4 of RATM? werd. |
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i believe it is called 'using the medium.' quite smart actually! Caught between my culture and the system. genocide. if ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face! if we don't take action now, we settle for nothing later. if we settle for nothing now, we'll settle for nothing later. werd. jawarski: i said rawk, not top forty. creed, lit, slipknot, new marilyn manson, etc=top 40 'they're just victims of the inhouse driveby. you say jump! they say how high?' werd. CC back with 3/4 of RATM? werd. |
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Even reading your post twice, it makes no sense. Whoo, how wacky. Cock |
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i believe it is called 'using the medium.' quite smart actually! Caught between my culture and the system. genocide. if ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face! if we don't take action now, we settle for nothing later. if we settle for nothing now, we'll settle for nothing later. werd. jawarski: i said rawk, not top forty. creed, lit, slipknot, new marilyn manson, etc=top 40 'they're just victims of the inhouse driveby. you say jump! they say how high?' werd. CC back with 3/4 of RATM? werd. |
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wtf? |
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what happened there? 3 times? sorry folks! |
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RATM remind me of Led zepperin |
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i love RATM! saw them live right before they broke up! best $50 ive ever spent! Fuck Jimi Hendirx, fuck Slash, Tom Morello, hes the best! He co-produced 4 tracks on The Crystal Method's Tweekend, including Name of the Game. RATM fuckin rocks, got all their CDs. |
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Not really. They reach a larger audience this way. |
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Yeah, its on the B-side to Shadow's last single. I wasn't bowled over. |
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They have some songs that rock, I don't care too much for their politics though. |
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And they weren't communists but revolutionary socialists. There is a big difference. |
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Why? |
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They suck now. All they sing now is stupid shit like "We're the renegades of Funk" and shit like that. They RUINED "Just Kill A Man." Cypress Hill did it so much better... |
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I like RATM a lot, even though their pseudo-communist rantings seemed quite naive a lot of the time, but their hearts were in the right places.. |
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Why do people keep saying they were communist? |
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I don't dsay they were communist, but they had some communist, or, more accuraetely, "socialist" and anti capitalist ideals. |
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what the hell is wrong with anti-capitalism? capitalism is the devil! the reason most people think RATM were all about communism was the che guevera t-shirts and tom morrellos 'coomie' hat. if they had of bothered to read the lyriccs or listen to them at least, they might have realised! |
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funny, i never got into rage but i love zack de la rocha's collaborations. i think everyone in rage was very talented yet as a band they were rarely creative. |
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btw that collab between morello and ATR is old man, look up the atari teenage riot song "rage" - that's that. there's also a remix with members of the arsonists. |
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There's nothing wrong with anti-capitalism, it's just most people who preach about it are hypocrites, like Rage. How can you be anti-capitalist and be signed to a major record label? Have videos on MTV? A website? Unless you're out in the forest wearing leaves and picking berries all day, you support capitalists one way or another. |
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let me answer that question for them: by being on a major they had a far greater platform for their views. it's a necessary evil, a minor compromise to achieve the larger goal of blowing minds. |
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thanks tits! |
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I just saw that new video or whatever with that kid that looks like an alien. hes in this lowrider with women and stuff...he looks really weird. but yeah..i dont like SOAD....i think they're....bah...fugetit |
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oops...what am i doing here..i was thinking of system of a down....SORRY EVERYONE *runs away as fast as he can* |
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One of those bands I always pick up, look at, look in my purse and say next time. |
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oops, i meant "pedestal" not "platform" |
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Definately a band to see live. |
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hhh |
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"let me answer that question for them: by being on a major they had a far greater platform for their views. it's a necessary evil, a minor compromise to achieve the larger goal of blowing minds. " well not really, by rage being on major label they have to give up some of their political beliefs. they have to compromise on many of their beliefs or the major label wouldnt be up for it f they said something that the label didnt like. in truth being a a poltical band can only be done on a indie label. it does reach less people but theres no compromises that way. |
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MachineofGod has a good point. Recall the band Earth Crisis which at one point in time were a part of the hardcore scene. Later when they got a lot bigger and turned more or less into a metal band they played shows sponsored by miller genuine draft. Ironic because they were supposed to be a X-edge band. Likewise, Zack used to be the frontman for a X-edge band called Inside Out. Theres a lot of history in that hardcore band even though they only put out one 7-inch. members were related to gorilla biscuts, 108, and chain of strength. While I do think RATM were important they were definately marketable. perhaps they may been even more extreme if fame had not sought them out or vice versa. I always thought downset were a little better anyway. there used to be a band called Race Traitor in chicago that really took a liberal stance on ideas. |
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well if you knew anything about RATM and TOOL then you wouldn't hae made that post. both bands were picked up by their respective labels after less than 10 gigs were played. RATM was signed before they finished thei demo. some of those tracks are on their first album. that prompted the way they recorded their albums>live in teh same room. jazz style [tom moreelo's main influence] getting back to the point> the labels were attracted to the controversy both those bands put forth. RATM signed based on teh fact that they could write about whatever they wanted. the laberl had ansolutely no creative control. many artists have exercised this right. so RATM compromised absolutely nothing. there was no conflict of interest. they chose to accept based on the fact that this merger would allow them to spread the word to millions as opposed to a few thousand. both parties prospered from this union as well. RATM wa one of the highest grossing acts for over five years. they influenced much of what we hear today, adn they stayed true to themselves and used the medium to communicate. only an idiot would disagree. and idiot or a troll. and we know how to kill trolls! fire and acid babee! |
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