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offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 19:24 [#00322983]
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hm... i don't really know what to think about Go Plastic
yet (bought it yesterday). I thought Hard Normal Daddy was
one of the best CD's i ever heard, so my expectations were
pretty high... but go plastic doesn't sound alot like that
one ;-)

I dunno... alot of the track don't seem to make much sense
to me. Just utter chaos! But I'm still quite confident it'll
grow on me.

ANYWAY, the only track that I immediately loved, right from
the first listen is "i wish you could talk"... this song is
gorgeous. It almost makes me cry everytime i hear it.

but i wonder... before i bought go plastic i had this idea
in my head that there was a squarepusher-song called "i wish
you could talk, but you're my right hand". I'm not sure
why... I must have read about it here on this messageboard
(because this is the only place i ever read anything about
squarepusher)... does anyone remember? Maybe it was just a
joke someone made a long time ago? Or maybe the rumors
before the album came out said it'd be called "... but
you're my right hand?" (i remember reading before druqks
came out that the first song would be called 'jynweythek
vlow'... but the vlow seems to have vanished. Or (another
example), before Kid A came out, i read everywhere that
there would be a song on it called "how to dissapear
completely and never be found"...)

I know this is a very vague question and probably no-one
will know what i'm talking about. But I was actually quite
surprised when I found out yesterday that the song was
"just" called 'I wish you could talk'... and nothing more.

The search-option is useless, probably too many words or
something, cause it just brings up random results when i
search for "i wish you could talke but you're my right
hand"



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 19:28 [#00322985]
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can't help you with that
sorry george


 

offline Clic on 2002-07-24 19:33 [#00322988]
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Hard Normal Daddy is one of these most amazing albums in my
collection. The way he composes everything and how he sets
it all up for you; it's just mind blowing.

He's such a well-versed musician. The man can play bass and
make it sound so beautiful on one end, and so funky on the
other. His programming skills are out of this world. All of
this is showcased on Hard Normal Daddy and that is why I
think it is such a good album.

Go Plastic is another favorite of mine. I love the fact that
it's so chaotic and hard to swallow. I think that's what
attracts me to it. I wish you could talk is one his best
tracks ever, in my opinion. Very emotional. Greenways
Trajectory is fucking insane; very harsh.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 19:34 [#00322989]
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it's okay tolstoyed, thanks anyway :-)

why are you smashing those innocent little cars?


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 19:38 [#00322993]
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i think in 10.000 years time when the archeologists find a
copy of Go Plastic, they will wonder what drove people to
listen to this... voluntarely!

Next time i listen to it i will try to focus on greenways
trajectory, thanks for the tip :-)

I really WANT to like this album, because hard normal daddy
showed me what a genius tom jenkinson is... i'll just keep
listening to it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 19:40 [#00322994]
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go plastic is probably my favourite idm album
and i don't see it as chaotic-i think its pretty melodic
and i love all tracks
also it's not as ¨weird¨ as some other idm albums - that
goes for people that are not into idm
some of my buddies prefer go plastic to most of the other
idm stuff


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-24 19:41 [#00322995]
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Go Plastic is a masterpiece.
When I first got it I thought I Wish You Could talk was the
best song on the album, now I realize its one of the worst.
It's like squarepusher gone down a level, to me its so wierd
that its even on there, so different and plain compared to
the rest of the style, just regular old drum n bass with a
simple melody. Once you get into the Go Plastic style, you
will fucking scream to the intense sounds of Boneville
Occident, Go Spastic, The Exploding Psychology, Greenways
Trajectory...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 19:46 [#00322997]
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yes! That's what I'm hoping for! i really want to scream to
those intense sounds! Damnit, i hope it starts making sense
to me real soon!!

Maybe i shouldn't have bought music is rotted one note on
the same day... i liked that one from the first time i heard
it, and it's way too tempting to put that one on... hehe. I
suspect if i had just bought go plastic i could listen to it
more focussed.

But i WILL get there... sooner rather than later i hope i
will make a post how much i love go plastic and how intense
it sounds!


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-24 19:52 [#00323000]
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Well its hard to like go plastic if you don't like drum n'
bass or drill n' bass. I've been listening to that kind of
dance drum n' bass/jungle long before I heard squarepusher
and that just took it up a level for me (or 10 levels), I
can't really listen to that rave d'n'b stuff anymore. But
you said you like Hard Normal Daddy (one of the best
electronic albums ever made), and therefor you must be able
to appreciate those drums. I started with tracks 1, 3, 6,
and 10 when I got the album. The first couple minutes of Go
Spastic are pretty accessible, so I would listen to that a
bit, I love red hot car still, the beat is great,
the breakdown rocks! If you can dig that at all listen to
Boneville Occident (one of the most intense drill tracks
ever), then check out The Exploding Psychology (which I
gaurentee will become one of ur favorite []< songs) and
Greenways Trajectory (which is fkin nuts). Try My Fucking
Sound at your own risk ;).

You don't have to follow this at all but I basically wasn't
that big a fan of GP (except for red hot car and i.w.y.c.t.)
when I first heard it so I imagine you would probably go
through the same sort of thing I did.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 19:56 [#00323005]
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i think he's got a lot more fans after go plastic was
released
im sure he attracted many people with this album


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 20:15 [#00323017]
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i fully agree with you on Hard Normal Daddy (one of the best
electronic albums ever made)... and now that i think of
it... it also took me awhile to get into 'chin hippy' (which
definitely sound to me like the most "go plastic-ish" song
on there).

I'm not too sure about Red Hot Car... the melody is not that
interesting imo. I more like the way he fucks it up! :-p
It reminds me (this entire album reminds me of that more or
less) of the last minute of "54 cymru beats".

Go Spastic was a good advice (listening to it as we speak).
The way it changes around 1:40 is amazing. I love that part
from about 1:40 to 2:10.

The first 3 times I listened to this album it just confused
me. I couldn't discover ANY structure in most of the songs.
But it's beginning to make a little more sense to me i
think. (at least Go! Spastic is already at 4:00 and i'm
still liking it).

About the boneville occident... there is a high-pitched
sound in there that really freaks me out! (and gave me a
headache yesterday). But again... i just listened to it, and
i could take it pretty good today.

I wouldn't say i love it already, but i'm beginning to see
the underlying structure in the tracks i think.

Your post has really wet my appetite for The Exploding
Psychology xanatos! You guaranteeing it would be one of
favourite sp-songs...mmm I can't wait to hear it again.

However... no matter how much i will or won't start to love
all the other tracks, i can't imagine i will EVER grow tired
of I wish you could talk!



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 20:19 [#00323019]
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well i don't care if anyone will be able to solve my mystery
(but i do hope someone will, of course)... but i am still
changing my MSN-name to "i wish you could talk, but you're
my right hand" ;-)

If the mystery remains unsolved i will tell people it came
to me in a dream!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 20:21 [#00323022]
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¨I love that part from about 1:40 to 2:10. ¨
is that go spastic or go plastic?


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 20:25 [#00323027]
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ehr... there is no song called go plastic?

Anyways i meant "go! spastic" yes. From 1:40 to 2:10 there's
a really funky part :-)

It made me happy just then, listening to it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 20:27 [#00323029]
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i just noticed that on cover its written go spastic
but if i play it in windows media player its named go
plastic
strange


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-07-24 20:29 [#00323032]
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yeah
that part sounds little hip-hop ish to me


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-24 20:34 [#00323039]
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when i put Richard D James album in an iMac computer and let
it grab the songtitles from the web (i'm not sure what the
program is called), it said the 5th track was called "corn
mouth"... the warpsite lists that one as "carn marth".

Richard's handwriting on the CD could say both really ;-)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-24 21:42 [#00323112]
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''I Wish You Could Talk'' will go down in history as one of
the best electronic tracks ever. At least in MY head! The
fucker is a D and B work of art. I love that crying synth.
WAAAAHHHH... (drums)... WAAAAHHHH... (drums)... WAAAAHHH...


And so on... :-/


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-24 22:40 [#00323174]
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"i wish you could talk, but you're my right hand" was just
someone beiing smart. it's not a mystery, just a little
jokey joke.

focus on "the exploding psychology" that song is amazing.
especially the ending, focus on the bass and drums.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-24 22:44 [#00323176]
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I love Go Plastic, and liked it a lot right off... I was
kinda surprised with myself actually, that I liked it so
much right off, but I guess Drukqs prepared me for it... I
got totally what I was expecting and wanting when I bought
Go Plastic, and so I guess that also helped... it's still
fucking crazy, but I love that about it...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-24 22:50 [#00323180]
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Go! Spastic is my favorite from Go Plastic right now... I
love the bass, and the crazy drums man!!! :)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-24 22:52 [#00323184]
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heh, earlier I had a headache, so I put on Boards of Canada
and my headache went away... so, then I decided to put on Go
Plastic, and now it's back!!! :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 12:40 [#00323961]
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i wish you could talk is probably my favourite squarepusher
track at this moment... i know what you mean with the crying
synth ophecks :-) That's what makes the song sound so...
eh... emotional. I luv it! It makes me so sad and
melancholic.

But also the underlying melody is really special! "i wish
you obelisk" is basically the same song, but without the
melody... and it doesn't even come close. I mean the rhythm
is still pretty good i think, but it's the melody that
really grabs me everytime! "i wish you obelisk" sounds very
cold and empty in comparison.

The best thing about the beats is that they're so fast and
hectic, but also kinda static (not evolving)... the way they
contrast with the melody is wonderful


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 12:47 [#00323968]
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a little joke eh? Well cheers to who-ever thought of it! I
think it's great :-D And thanks for telling me titsworth,
i'm glad someone (you) remembered it and knew what i was
talking about :-)

What i like about the exploding psychology so far is that
the beginning is so slow... with lots of silence, and then
suddenly it all falls apart and becomes this really crazy
chaotic... song :-)

The ending is very intense indeed... i'm starting to like it
more and more.

God this CD is hard to get into... but I like that :-) cd's
that i hate at first, and really have to listen to over and
over before i start to like them, usually end up being my
favourites. And it's been awhile since a CD challenged me as
much as Go Plastic is doing


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 12:54 [#00323973]
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After having heard them both, Druqks sounds more like "Go
Plastic lite" i think ;-)

Of course they are just different cd's... i like other
things about aphex twin then i like about squarepusher. But
it's a little bit like richard has taken the insanity and
chaos from Go Plastic, and made it into more recognizable
melodic and structured songs.

Boneville occident doesn't give me headaches anymore
;-)
I've gotten used to those sounds quickly i guess. Actually i
like that song alot. Even though i do think my red hot car
is pretty good, and it's getting better and better... it
still feels like boneville occident is the *real* start of
the album.



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-25 13:22 [#00323995]
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Theres a totally georgeous video for "the exploding
psychology"...done by a couple of guys (who's names escape
me at the moment) as part of the CR/WARP SQPR video
competition a few months back...

I've got em on DVD but I've seen some excellent .MOV
versions on soulseek... if you've a decent connection, I
believe you can view em over at WARP .... all of
em
are very good but the exploding psychology one is my
personal fave...

I emailed the guy who did it and got a really cool long
email back from him...lost the fucker when my lappy when to

heaven tho :(...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 13:27 [#00323999]
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go plastic is awesome! but it shouldn't have been much
longer than 45 mins cause the sounds get to you after a
while. it's definately a trip. those voices in my fucking
sound.... geweldig


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 13:32 [#00324002]
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I think i've seen that video. If i remeber correctly it
consisted of alot of eh... "patterns"... like
computer-generated landscapes, that changed with the
music... simple patterns for the quiet parts, and wild and
crazy patterns for the noisy parts (all in 3D, colored lines
against a black background).

I thought the video was really excellent, but i hated the
music (i watched it on the warp site before i had ever heard
anything from the squarepusher).

But my computer at home is pretty crappy... it does internet
and microsoft word... and that's pretty much it. I watched
that video over at my academy a few months back. I doubt i
could get it to play here.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 13:46 [#00324020]
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yeah, why did xanatos say: "Try My Fucking Sound at your own
risk ;)"?

I doesn't sound much more extreme than most of the other
tracks. Altough there are some crazy moments in there ;-)
But still... i quite liked it just then (have been listening
to it behind the computer over headphones... sounds much
better).

I do think "my sound" from music is rotted is better though
:-)

Die stemmen kan ik me zo niet voor de geest halen...
volgende keer zal ik er eens op letten.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-25 13:55 [#00324026]
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Yep, that sounds like the video, surrounded...I wish WARP
films would get it's arse in gear and start releasing some
stuff as promised...These competition entries (and the other
WARP ones) definately deserve a proper DVD release...


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:15 [#00324234]
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O K!!!!!!!!!!

this song is pretty wonderful, a bit confused but still
coherent enough for a wimp like me to enjoy


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-07-25 17:20 [#00324297]
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"my fucking sound" is mixed absolutely amazingly with Boards
of Canada's
"AMO BISHOP RODEN" at Warpradio's DJ MIX1, the purple one.
For all those who found it a difficult track to like, you
will love it after this. The whole mix is AMAZING and GO
PLASTIC is INCREDIBLE.
- the summation of all garage tunes in "my red hoty car"
- the forward pulsating melody and drums of 'i wish..."
- the journey of emotion on "exploding ..."
..and everything else beside. SP, he just never stops the
energy


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-25 21:59 [#00324472]
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i've heard about the "my fucking sound" live remix before,
anyone on soulseek have an mp3 of this? i'd love to hear it.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-25 22:10 [#00324482]
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I'd love to hear it also.

Surrounded: I actually don't like My Fucking Sound that
much, I think My Sound is much better also, but god
Boneville Occident is a m9ndfukc, so is exploding
psychology. Just keep given em a chance.


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-25 22:25 [#00324496]
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amazing album
it will certainly grow in you mr surrounded and u will luv
it sooner or later

it is funny but i was just listenin to it few hours ago with
my mate. and he said somethin like this'
"if i didnt know you man, i would say that my cd player is
broken"

:o)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-26 09:43 [#00325498]
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LOL!

That's classic steamtank ;-)
I remember a Go Plastic review in OOR which started with:
"everybody run! The squarepusher is back"... and later on:
"Putting on Squarepusher is still a great way to scare
unwanted guests away from your house" ;-)

But it really IS growing on me. Last night as i was
listening to it again, i suddenly recognized an actual
melody in the insane part of Exploding Psychology. At first
it was mostly obscured by all the crazy beats, but later on
it becomes clearer. This really sweet little melody, played
at a really high pitch... 't was great :-) I loved it!

I still think My Fucking Sound is quite good also...
especially the first couple of minutes. But the last cd i
played last night was "music is rotted one note"... and i
fell asleep during the grand finale of "my sound"... i can't
believe how great that song is! One of his best :-)



 


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