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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:29 [#00320737]
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i just had this huge argument/discussion with my dad
he said this electronic music is all noise. And why should i be at a music school if alls im doing is making noise. and that it takes no talent to make this music
i tried to remain clam and explain it to him
he still didnt get it
aswf[uohasvdouhs
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-07-23 05:31 [#00320738]
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Hey, not all people dig electronic music. To say that it takes no talent to produce is ridiculous though. But sure, you could probably get a lot of fans if you wrote duff "punk rock/emo" songs (i.e. Jimmy Eat World; Weezer; Sum 41; Blink 182).
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:38 [#00320740]
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heh, i get in fights like that with me friends and just genral idiots who pass through the store. (they buy a fuckin sackload of Kenny G albums and they tell me I listen to shit?) ah well, fuck em, you know your right and thats all that matters.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:38 [#00320742]
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yeah
my dad asked "who listens to this?"
and i was like "lots of people"
and he was like "what percent"
and i was like "how am i supposed to know that?"
but he said its annoying and asked me what the music was trying to express
(we were listening to track 3 of confield) and i told him its not just one emotion
i compared it to painting. You have art that is like, a picture of a garden.
very straight forward
but then you have dali, and monet etc, and what is it? well, im not sure exactly, but its pleasing, it has emotion and deepth
his basic response was "ehhh"
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-23 05:41 [#00320745]
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tell him there is money at the end of the tunnel.... that could possibly make him shut it....
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:43 [#00320751]
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a hard right/left to the chin might do the trick as well :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:50 [#00320757]
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well, i told him that there is obviously a market for it
i mean, cds are made, record labels make exclusivly this type of music
people gig
etc
i tried to compare it to him...
he likes rock n roll, and i said i bet his parents thought rock n roll was noise, and i said it was the same thing, its just a different generation
your parents didnt like rock, but it doesnt mean its not music, it just has a different meaninh to you then it does to them
but he just said "but this is just noise"
and i was like "DID YOU NOT GET THE POINT OF THIS ANALAGY?!?!?!"
uhg
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Ross
from Canada on 2002-07-23 05:55 [#00320763]
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zeus, i think showing him confield would be the most inacessible electronic music to show an outsider to it, maybe besides venetian snares (for its downright violence) show him some plaid, boc, i'm sure you can find something he might like a bit
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-23 05:58 [#00320769]
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-23 06:02 [#00320774]
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yeh... mabie a bit of bogdan BOC or Autechre..... if he doesn't understand then... just spash his face into the sterio system several times so he can tell the difference between noise and IDM...
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-23 06:05 [#00320778]
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heh... pretty funny, bro.
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-23 06:07 [#00320781]
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its noise! noise i tell ya!
*CRACK!!*
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-07-23 06:53 [#00320843]
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is all music noise?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-07-23 06:54 [#00320846]
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well, i'm not suprised he thought it was just unlistenable noise, you let him listen to confield. it's for more "advanced" IDM listeners. Even I don't really appriciate the autechre sound very well at this stage, maybe i never will.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 06:55 [#00320847]
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yeah, but he also hates BoC, and Aphex Twin, and Squarepusher
except for a very few ambient peices...then he calls it new age, which also pisses me off!
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-23 06:55 [#00320848]
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true.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-07-23 07:00 [#00320857]
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i'm listening to that gantz graf song now. Anyone like this crap?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 07:01 [#00320860]
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havnt heard it yet... but looking forward!
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-23 07:02 [#00320861]
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HA... nice way of putting it... *sarcasm*
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-23 07:11 [#00320876]
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no offense but your dad probably thinks you're gay. i mean, from an outsider's perspective, only fags and supposedly heterosexual artsy-fartsy types listen to IDM. if you really care what your dad thinks of the music you listen to, just pretend you like rock too and he won't give you a hard time for liking "noise" on top of that. personally i couldn't give a fuck what my family thinks of what i listen to, but that's me.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 07:13 [#00320883]
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no he doesnt think im gay
and im not gonna lie about what i like
i just wish he could see it from my point of view
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-23 07:13 [#00320886]
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I love the track Gantz Graf! And the video rocks too.
Zeus, if your Father thinks most IDM is just noise then play BoC's Magic Window for him :)
I guess it would be very frustrating being in a postion like that (trying to convince someone that 'IDM' is much more than awful noise.)
When your Father ask's who listen's to this music, why not show him messages from this message board or tell him how many members are here!
To Zeus' Father:
Hi! I love 'IDM' and listen to it all the time. It can be very beautiful and emotional at times, or scary and disturbing or even funny. You don't have to like the music, just atleast except that a lot of people love this music. Bye!
=)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-23 07:15 [#00320892]
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hehehe
will do!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-07-23 07:27 [#00320916]
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Resident Evil....why do you like it??
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-23 07:42 [#00320944]
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"Resident Evil....why do you like it??"
Hmmm... I don't know! It's different and weird. I don't know, I just love the sound to it. I got a great feeling listening to it.
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