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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:12 [#00315502]
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Everybody loves philosophy so, if you have a good philosophical statement for us all to ponder post it here.
e.g. “If a tree falls in a forest, but nobody is there to hear it does is make a noise?”
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:18 [#00315516]
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A version of Euclid's paradox:
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-19 03:21 [#00315518]
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philosophy is ok, but sometimes it just seems to stupid to question every damn thing...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:22 [#00315521]
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Doesn't it seem stupider not to?
Ignorance is bliss they say
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:23 [#00315523]
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Yeah i suppose, but some of the sayings are jsut funny like korbens one.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-19 03:24 [#00315526]
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but why question EVERYTHING?!?!? I know what is reality, so why do I need to think about why it's real, or who decides it's real, or whatever? It's fucking real, and I know that!! I just accept it... to question everything is just a waste of time... you're not ignorant if you don't question everything... that's just paranoia I think...
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:27 [#00315530]
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Paranoia we philospohers arn't paranoid...gtg sombody is outside wanting to get me.....
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:31 [#00315538]
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I question why you want to question why people would question everything!?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:32 [#00315539]
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You know funk, dismissal is kind of a weak form of argument, for a philosopher anyway ..
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:32 [#00315540]
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Korben New Zealand hey...i can't beleive u guys beat us in soccer....i am so ashamed to be Australian.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-07-19 03:34 [#00315542]
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hahahaha "philosophy is ok" no offense but i found that sentence hilarious.
hmmm philosophy, philosphy
ooo! dick made me think of something!
just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-19 03:36 [#00315546]
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"If you are not good at something straight away, give up"
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:37 [#00315548]
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Well you know ... with the world cup n all .. NZ is trying to get on that band wagon also. There is talk of NZ in the such and such a world cup etc.
Where's portland?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:38 [#00315550]
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"God is dead" - Zarathustra
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:39 [#00315553]
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Australia - Victoria
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:41 [#00315556]
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Dick.#7 Cool cool .. what keeps you busy.
"Language is the house of being" - Heidegger (i think)
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 03:44 [#00315562]
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What keeps me busy....yr 12 actually the final year but on holidays go back to school on Monday which should be fun
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 03:48 [#00315567]
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fair enough :)
enjoy the rest of yer hols. i'm going to hop off the line.
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uzim
on 2002-07-19 13:29 [#00316154]
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"when your conscience is well trained, it kisses you and bites you in the same time"
— nietzsche
"the one who thinks he hates himself still respects himself as somebody who hates"
— nietzsche
(very poorly translated, sorry...)
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Dick_007
from Portland (Australia) on 2002-07-19 14:07 [#00316189]
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"Is the glass half full or half empty?" Also used to work out if you are a pesamist or an optamist
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:36 [#00316842]
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Although it could be argued if the glass had just been filled - it would be referred to as half full, and if its just been (half emptied) - half empty.
"I'm afraid god is not entirely dead as we still have faith in grammar" - Nietzsche
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-07-19 21:39 [#00316845]
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philosophy is a good thing even... but all I'm saying is that sometimes it seems stupid and pointless...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:40 [#00316848]
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Cool cool :)
"all we have is our opinions"
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 21:42 [#00316853]
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ok... i know im gonna butcher this but here it goes
has anyone heard of the thing, where if you have a cat in a box, with a vile of posion that has a 50/50 chance of breaking open and killing the cat,
and if you never open open the box to see... then the cat is both alive and dead at the same time...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:44 [#00316856]
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Ok .. so why put the cat in the box in the first place?
I'm not sure I'm getting what you're getting at?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:45 [#00316860]
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Or if you could say, as long as the box is closed there is no cat. As soon as you open it, there might be a live or dead cat inside it (some Berkely for ya).
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 21:46 [#00316863]
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yeah, i knew this would be bad... hehe
like, in theory... if a cat was in a box with posion, that had a 50/50 chance of killing the cat... unless we opened the box, the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.
its not a matter of why the cats in the box, but has to do with relativity and stuff...
?
hehe
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-19 21:48 [#00316868]
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who is the more foolish: the fool or the fool that follows him
old, wise ob1 :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 21:49 [#00316870]
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amen brotha!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:50 [#00316872]
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the potential for it being alive or dead are the same - so i guess in that sense yes.
that's cool. i know - why the cat is in there is not the point, as with most philosophical scenarios (what if the tree didn't fall?).
Hey, i didn't manage to d/l yer trax yet .. d/l kept stuffing up. will give it another try sometime soon.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-19 21:50 [#00316874]
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"if you cant beat them, use bio-warfare."
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-19 21:51 [#00316875]
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"The only difference between me and the madmen is that I"M NOT MAD" - salvador dali
(along those lines)
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-07-19 22:24 [#00316922]
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The cat thing is a thought experiment designed by Edwin Schroedinger (sp?). It has to do with quantum mechanics, actually, not relativity. He proposed it to show the absurdity of what was then the most widely accepted model of quantum mechanics--namely, the Copenhagen interpretation. Has to do with wave-particle duality, Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle and non-locality, which Einstein referred to as "spooky action at a distance".
Quite interesting stuff.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-19 22:33 [#00316926]
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hmm, sounds interesting...
at least I think it would if i could understand it. :)
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-07-19 22:43 [#00316933]
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It is. And if you're at all interested in learning more I suggest two books by the author/physicist John Gribbon: In Search of Schroedinger's Cat and Schroedinger's Kittens.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-20 11:38 [#00317317]
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I went and saw the play Copenhagen last year (forget who by), but it was all about Bohr, and such .. intertwined with WWII and all the implications etc of stuff. :)
But yeah, quantum stuff is wicked .. cool i reckon.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-20 22:08 [#00317719]
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the past of the past is the future?
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-07-20 23:16 [#00317776]
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Nobody "knows" anything so philosophy is pointless
IMO
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-21 09:17 [#00318172]
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^ We can't even KNOW that .. hence philosophy?
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