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Okay I was reading the "Rate Do You Know Squarepusher" thread and I noticed that this track is a cover. A cover of what? I didn't know. After searching around on the Internet I found it was Joy Division. I've never heard this song before? Was it big in the UK or something? The Squarepusher version sucks so hard I may have to boycott him until the next World Cup. |
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no man that sqp cover rules!! |
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Yeah i like that track! I haven't heard the original i think? Pushers voice is really low in the mix , almost as he is shy or something. |
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Wow, I'm amazed some people haven't heard the original. It's not that old... :-P |
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its very low as he has a shit voice :-) |
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yeah he knows it haha! |
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I just wish it never happened. I feel sick to my stomach. |
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an amazing Joy Division cover is NIN's cover of Dead Souls |
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Karma To Burn also did one... '24 Hours' is on their debut album... Personally the only thing I can stand related to Joy Division is the remix of New Order's 'New Faith'... great video too! |
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this isn't the most original cover i've ever heard - the percussion seems to consist of a ride/crash cymbal fusion played over |
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I like it! Its even better than the original |
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I feel i can comment as i once was a huge Joy division/New Order 'fan' in my youth (I am now the proud age of 62).The track in question made the UK top 20,in 1980(just shortly after singer Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980).It also hit a similar chart position an rerelease in 1983.It was also remixed in 1995,hitting the 30's.Covers have been made by Paul Young,The Swans,U2 amongst others.My favourite being Stanton-Miranda on the JD covers album(which also included Moby).}:> |
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even better? shit, it's more or less just an emulation of the original - at least in the original ian curtis was singing from his own songsheet, tragic as it was |
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As a fan of both Joy Division and Squarepusher, I can objectively say that the cover is terrible. It's cool that he covered it, but I think he should've done it more in his style. Perhaps more drum and bass, more vocal effects, stuff like that. |
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Thank you steve. |
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Paul Young did a fantastic cover of this peice in the eighties. very tasteful. mr. curtis was too moody to really understand this work. |
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I'll probably get my ass kicked for this...but i think Therapy's cover of Isolation was pretty good...Their version of Husker Du's Diana was pretty good too |
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wow i want to cover this sond as well. it seems as though everyone else in the world has |
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NIN's version of "Dead Souls" is probably the best cover of Joy Division i've heard. Bush does a pretty neat cover of "In a Lonely Place" If you want to hear Joy Division cover someone else, check out "Sister Ray" off of their 'Still' disc, it's pretty good. |
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Joy Division is AMAZING and i *NOD* in agreement NIN's cover is soooooo GOOD. i see it on slsk all ze time so take the time and DOWNLOAD it you're gonna like it an OCELOT =0) |
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"mr. curtis was too moody to really understand this work." but Paul Youngs' cover really hit the spot ? eh ???!! Surely its a song about depression; seeing the black clouds even from the summit of the hill, the all-pervading bleakness of the emotions. Curtis is THE man for the job. ATmosphere ... or Leaders of Men are better examples of his melancholy/alienation though. |
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Paul Young???? He murdered that song!!!...I have a dream where I shit on his head for defiling something sacred... and one day that dream will come true... Joy Div were a big part of my youth & to hear that spiky 80s hasbeen cover it was sickening... (and if you've never heard much Joy Div then get yourself to SS...you are in for a big big treat!!!)... |
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totally agree on ATMOSPHERE...that's my fave JD song... and their artwork (and New Orders) is way up there with Autechres....I think it was Peter Saville who designed em all... |
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so at least people here agree with me[I`ll have to check out the nin dead souls cover] |
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I love the NIN cover. I haven't heard the original though... |
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I really enjoy the original...have not hear the cover. |
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Whoa! I really liked that NIN track on the crow soundtrack. I had no idea it was joy division's :) I remember V/vm did a cover of love will tear us apart on the 20th(?) anniversary of that guy from JD hanging himself. Very tasteful. |
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Obviously no ones actually heard the Paul Young version I was refering to, eh? No one remembers that before he started his meds and began to sing his White Soul 80's sell-out, he was a miserable and harsh song-writer equal to anything by Tom Waits or Nick Drake. Ian Curtis rode his own mental illness to the bank, and then jumped in (a la Jeff Buckley). Love Will Tear Us Apart is his song, and his song only. New Order will never play this song because of their respect for Paul Young's rendition. |
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I'm listening to it now and I really like it, though I don't think its anything amazingly different from the original. But then, why should it be, if tom just left this unreleased and we knew about it you just KNOW we'd be pining for it so bad as long as he doesn't start doing cher covers i'm happy |
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deadw: did you not read my previous post re: Paul Young... " New Order will never play this song because of their respect for Paul Young's rendition. ".... this is a joke, yeah?... |
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i've banned my mum from playing paul young |
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Joy Division were a fabulous band, they were around in the late 70'd but split in 1980 when the lead singer Ian Curtis hung himself. The remaining band members went on toi form New Order. I think that song in particular was pretty big when it was released, personally I love it ;) |
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joy division are amazing. i cosign with everyone who complimented nin's cover of "dead souls". another great cover is girls against boys' "she's lost control" (but to get it i you have to already appreciate scott mcloud's vocals i think). and as much as i disdain moby now i still love his cover of "new dawn fades", my favorite JD song. his whole singing style is modelled after ian curtis' voice. |
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i like the squarepusher cover because it's exactly not like everyone expected. it's like a big fuck you to all of his fans who won't except change :cough cough thirdball cough: it's a genuinely good cover, my only peave is that he misses the first love! it's supposed to go love..... love will tear us apart...... again but he sings it ............love will tear us apart...... again rar! also i was so pleased he's covered this because it's been stuck in my head for days at a time |
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I think it does a good job at covering it. You can feel the atmosphere more, which makes for a good tribute, but its nowhere near the original, which is one of my faves. |
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Ian Curtis' grave just says "Love will tear us apart." It is in Macclesfield in Cheshire, not really worth a visit but I used to live nearby. |
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I think Phobia0 needs to install a sarcastometer in xltronic when it's up, 'cause things fly over people's head. I hope no one wasted their time trying to track down the Paul Young version. If you did... i'm so, so, very, very, sorry...i'm sorry imho the best jd track ever is either Ceremony (only ever heard live track on bootleg) or 24 Hours. Really like Transmission but too many different takes to really decide which is the real song... |
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"it's like a big fuck you to all of his fans who won't except change :cough cough thirdball cough: " Oh don't worry I'll except change, in fact I would love to hear Tom produce something more aggressive and passionate - but this is shite. Whiny vocals over boring production; whatever this style of music is - sucks IMO |
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sorry, mate...:)...sarcasm flys over my head sometimes... |
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i like pushers better. its more soft and...hm..jummy... |
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Joy Division are SO BADASS>.. |
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Maybe Jenkinson just made it to easily fill the release. Count me amongst those dissappointed fans. I hope he stops his "big fuck you to all of his fans who won't except change" cause he will lose old and new fans. |
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The people who see his cover as whinny and sorryass are obviously not in the know of the overall aesthetic JD were a part of, so their reactions are understandable. The late 70s/ early 80s was a different time... |
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the song is nice. mkay. |
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I haven't heard it but it clearly won't better Paul Young's version. |
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the original is like 20 years old. |
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