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Omneignotumus
on 2002-07-12 18:59 [#00307396]
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State what "EP" and "LP" stand for. We are in an arguement here.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 19:00 [#00307397]
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EP = Extended Play
LP = Long Play
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-07-12 19:04 [#00307401]
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Are there definite restrictions on what defines these or a 'single' for that matter. I've noticed EPs with less tracks than singles. What is the story?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 19:13 [#00307408]
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In the UK there are very strict guidelines over what constitutes a "Single". It is a combination of number of tracks on the CD, length of the tracks etc.
That is why you find many singles in the UK being released on two discs (such as Come to Daddy) when it was first released.
Anything that wasn't eligible to be a Single was called an EP.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:25 [#00307495]
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i thought that a single has to include a song from the actual album, and an ep didnt.
for me:
-ventolin = single -windowlicker = ep
-basscadet = single -cichli suite, envane, ep7 and a whole lot more = eps
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 21:28 [#00307498]
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No Window Licker was a Single and Ventolin was an EP.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:34 [#00307504]
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hehehe, are you kidding me? didnt know! oh well...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 21:37 [#00307508]
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actually ICBYD which is technically a compilation hence Ventolin is an EP by your own definition
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:38 [#00307511]
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?? i said ventolin was a single, since icbyd is an lp.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 21:41 [#00307514]
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Ventolin had too many tracks on it to be a single.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 21:42 [#00307515]
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*i thought that a single has to include a song from the actual album, and an ep didnt. *
but ICBYD is not an album it is a compilation and hence Ventolin cannot be said to be from an *album*..hence it is an EP
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:45 [#00307517]
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i was under the impression that icbyd was clearly labeled as an album, not a compilation... what makes you think it is, though?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 21:46 [#00307519]
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ICBYD is still an album even if it is a compilation of tracks. It would still fall in the LP bracket.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-12 21:49 [#00307524]
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Shops put ICBYD in the album section. not compilation section or
singles section.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 21:49 [#00307525]
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because it IS..it compiles tracks from like 1990 ot 1993..years are clearly marked with the year they were created in
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:54 [#00307533]
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so, i guess by your logic, nin's the fragile is also a compilation, since it compiles songs made in 1997 to 1999...
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-12 21:56 [#00307535]
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That'd be a Milp.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:57 [#00307537]
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and a milp would be?
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Asche XL
on 2002-07-12 21:57 [#00307538]
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This is so confusing!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-07-12 21:58 [#00307539]
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I don't know, it just sounds funny.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 21:58 [#00307540]
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on Fragile Trent has gone out of his way to create as seamless and flowing experience..he hasnt made a conscious effort to make you aware of which year each song was created...
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 21:59 [#00307542]
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lol!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 22:03 [#00307545]
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ok, i understand what you mean. since rdj made the conscious effort to indicate the dates, that makes his album a compilation, unlike only taking up a long time before getting an album together à la fragile...
maybe icbyd is a compilation afterall, but wouldnt drukqs be one too (since he told himself he just threw a bunch of tracks together from that lost minidisc)? or, because he hasnt written the actual year in which the tracks were created, he avoids the 'compilation' title?
this is getting a bit complicated...!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 22:09 [#00307550]
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this is getting a bit complicated...!
tell me about it :)
I mean even SAW I has been compiled and packaged as a compilation hasnt it?
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 22:13 [#00307556]
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i believe it's perceived as an album (if i ca rely on what allmusic.com says...), but the title obviously tells us it's a compilation (with the years)...
damn! i dont know what's what anymore!
and i forgot what the inialt goal of this 'argument' was... lol
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-12 22:19 [#00307572]
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you thought we were having an argument? :(
why does everyone always think that.. I mean I call em discussions and the next thing I know people start swearing and name calling...
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-12 22:31 [#00307585]
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A compilation is still an album...Usually the term album refers to a collection of one artists work, a compilation a collection of various artists work.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-07-12 22:37 [#00307594]
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maybe not an argument (i think it has a somewhat negative meaning in english). discussion would be a better term ;)
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