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U.S. keep killing people by accident!
 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 06:55 [#00292836]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular



first some american pilot DEFIED DIRECT orders and droped a
bomb on canadians (killing 4, injuring 8)...
and now THIS:

(from yahoo.com)
U.S. planes bombed a village in central Afghanistan on
Monday after the U.S. military said American forces came
under fire. Afghans said villagers were celebrating a
wedding and that scores were killed and injured, including
many women and children. Reports of the incident were
conflicting. The Pentagon insisted the aircraft attacked a
legitimate hostile target but suggested an errant bomb may
have caused civilian casualties. More... (Reuters graphic)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-02 06:57 [#00292839]
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Can you imagine if some Afghans ''accidentally''dropped a
bomb on a 7-11 or a Starbucks? Imagine the backlash...


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 06:57 [#00292840]
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since the 'war on terrorism' started in afganistan.......
more civilians have been killed by bombing mistakes than
were killed on sept 11!!
(true! statistics from (i think) red cross!)


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-02 06:57 [#00292841]
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oh my god i'm ashamed of my country.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-02 06:58 [#00292844]
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Oh American Government, how I loathe thee.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-02 06:59 [#00292848]
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thats sad. the us pilots aught to be more carefull. i think
they did that afgan one on purpose


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 06:59 [#00292849]
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yes exactly

and america wont ratify the world court cus they want...
(get this)

IMMUNITY for american soldiers and peacekeepers!

wtf!?
then whats the point of a world court if those in charge are
IMMUNE!!!!?!?
bs!

"global police" my ass!
even worse than a CORRUPT 'global police'...... its just a
global bully!


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:01 [#00292855]
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maybe if our president wasn't borderline retarded.........


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 07:04 [#00292863]
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LOL!

hehehe... how true!

what a moron..... (sorry if anyone is offended by this!)



 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:04 [#00292864]
Points: 8984 Status: Lurker



ya those bombings pissed me off man. there needs to be some
kinda reform or change of command in the u.s. armed forces.
kinda ironic with me sayin this, being a u.s. military
dependent, but that's how i feel. i think Bush & Rumsfeld
got their heads up where the sun dont shine


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-07-02 07:04 [#00292866]
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there have been thousands of (accidental??) deaths done by
america on afghanistan, to me that sounds kinda like
ummmmmmmm terrorism !!!


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:04 [#00292867]
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Suddenly Canada doesn't seem so bad.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:05 [#00292870]
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Don't let a figurehead scapegoat for a problem that's much
deeper, more permanent, and much scarier.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 07:05 [#00292871]
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yes, very true Xanatos

good point!


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:08 [#00292876]
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i've only been to the west coast of canada in b.c. & yukon,
but i thought it was pretty cool


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:10 [#00292882]
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::looks up "scapegoat" at merriam-webster online::

i agree


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:11 [#00292884]
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BTW is that H.R. Giger artwork in your avatar?


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-07-02 07:14 [#00292888]
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don't believe it... they're all LIES I TELL YOU!

FUCKING LIES!!!!!!!!


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-07-02 07:35 [#00292937]
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Pachi: yes.

Quoth: You're right.
What we hear are mostly lies, screened and censored.
The truth is far fucking worse.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2002-07-02 07:44 [#00292959]
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oh right!
the ongoing war on tourism er
terrorism


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2002-07-02 07:53 [#00292975]
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i'd reply to this but i'm sick of politics, after writing an
11.20 min speech for school about israel...its the only work
i did properly all year!


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2002-07-02 07:54 [#00292978]
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shit i just discovered i'm an old daddy!! yay!


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-07-02 08:23 [#00293012]
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american army are fuckwits :) i hate them.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 09:58 [#00293079]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



stupid boys with toys


 

offline Tasos from Athens (Greece) on 2002-07-02 10:07 [#00293084]
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cmon its not their mistake... they just find it funny
killing people...

American politics kill more people though...


 

offline Tasos from Athens (Greece) on 2002-07-02 10:10 [#00293087]
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Just consider how many economies of counties they have
destroyed...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-07-02 15:24 [#00293447]
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did you know the word SCAPEGOAT comes from a Jewish ritual,
where they kill a goat, whose blood cleanses them of their
sins.

amazing what you learn in Xmas Crackers these days...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-07-02 15:26 [#00293449]
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don't forget the US takeover of South America in the
early/middle of the 20th century, with their puppet
heads-of-states &tc &tc


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-07-02 16:00 [#00293463]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular



no army is perfect but wait till your country is getting
fucked , then you will be begging for our army,,


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-07-02 16:37 [#00293499]
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nah... we gave you guys capitalism from the old skool
thinkings of the Greek's & Romans... Europeans & African
nations are just WAY too dumb & lazy to fix their own
problems to let capitalism work effectively... you guys are
more interested in being terrorists than trying to fix your
schooling & literacy rate.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-07-02 16:40 [#00293501]
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and besides we practically saved everyones ass in WWII, so
don't come complaining that the US Government is TOO
powerful, like I said, we saved the whole fucking world from
Nazism & Communism so I think that gives us some sort of
power to be on the leading edge in military usage.

granted militarys can fuck up super bad & i think that us
killing canadians is plain retarded. thank you.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 16:42 [#00293503]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to Quoth: #00293499



"nah... we gave you guys capitalism from the old skool
thinkings of the Greek's & Romans... Europeans & African
nations are just WAY too dumb & lazy to fix their own
problems to let capitalism work effectively... you guys are
more interested in being terrorists than trying to fix your
schooling & literacy rate. "

sorry quoth but that was a pretty stupid, ignorant comment
:(


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 16:45 [#00293506]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular



The US only joined WW2 (very late on) because they where
attacked, England where there voluntarily. I'm sick of
hearing 'We saved your ass' over and over, sorry. I love the
US apart from their government but cut the 'we saved your
ass line' hmm? It's old.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-07-02 16:46 [#00293507]
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Agreed!!


 

offline orange_calx from Netherlands, The on 2002-07-02 16:47 [#00293508]
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come on guys, stop arguing about politics and world issues.
i have to suffer enough of that in my normal life. i don't
want to hear it when i'm out here with the one thing that
can let me drift away: music!


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 16:49 [#00293509]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



"Europeans & African
nations are just WAY too dumb & lazy to fix their own
problems"

I hope you're fucking joking there quoth

"besides we practically saved everyones ass in WWII"

sure, but america has no right to take a moral highground on
the matter, considering for 2 years it continued to be
isolationist and see it as europes problem. america would
have sooner we all were taken over by the nazi's. And
anyway, america benefitted from the war, unemployment was
virtually zero and by the end its gdp was almost doubled!
that and it took territories off britain and other countries
in return for helping

right i'm off


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 16:50 [#00293510]
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also agreed!

btw the US was selling fucking weapons to the other side in
WW1 before they joined
so thats not exactly being some savior


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 16:51 [#00293514]
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Yeah, Orange Calx is correct. Cut the politics and escape to
music, The universal language.


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-07-02 16:52 [#00293516]
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im gonna have my little say,you all may not agree with it.

History.

Think about it?
Remember when England was the World Power up until the
1900's or so?
Did they kill a lot of people while they were in power?
Yes.

Hard to illustrate my point,but basically,its just history
being repeated. Get over it.
If your country was a world power(Yes,ANY country) they
would become like this as well...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 16:56 [#00293520]
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doesn't mean we shouldn't fight against it though

and as for politics on this board, we have some great
political discussions, we shouldn't just talk music


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 16:59 [#00293523]
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ya, of course!

but "get over it"!??!??!?!
thats a pretty bad attitude...

should people in nazi germany have just 'gotten over it' and
accept it!?
NO!
should people in china just accept that country's human
rights shit?
NO!

(of course the us isnt nazi germany.....)
but to just "get over it" and accept this bullshit!?
i dont fucking think so

if my gov is doing somethign VERY wrong, im gonna do
something about it!
thats goes against the MAIN POINT of democracy!
thats the philosophy that gave birth to the US itself!!!
to not accept tyranical rule of some overseas empire!


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2002-07-02 17:31 [#00293546]
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america IS nazi germany... but a politically acceptable one,
americans are no where near as free as they think, how many
people in america could open state their feelings of anti
goverment ideologies or abhorrence of the recent "war on
terrorism" without being stoned to death... you are
surrounded by the ignorant majority, I know this goes for
every country, but seeing yours has the world by the short
and curlys you have a responsibility to see that it doesnt
go mad.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-02 17:31 [#00293547]
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well one of the reasons why there was the attack on 9/11 in
the first place was because of us foreign policy esp in
israel where the us has come out in support of basically
what amounts to a form of apartheid against a native
people... don' think the taliban didn't have reasons
on sunday the us decided to stop backing un funding for
birth control and sex education cos abortion is wrong - but
still there is a huge aids epidemic in the places the un
goes to -
they went back on their promise with the kyoto agreement
against greenhouse gasses of which they are the greatest
contributor - went against imf rules by providing tax breaks
for their own farmers instead of tax breaks for farmers in
developing countries - every day the very right wing
government dfoe something bad - then again corporate america
which time after time is showing itself to be a bunch of
crooks funded these fuckers who were'nt even democratically
voted in - ring any bells ?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-02 17:37 [#00293551]
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yup, i agree w/ both of u!


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-02 17:50 [#00293557]
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"and besides we practically saved everyones ass in WWII, so

don't come complaining that the US Government is TOO
powerful, like I said, we saved the whole fucking world from

Nazism & Communism so I think that gives us some sort of
power to be on the leading edge in military usage. "

Although I did not like Nazism, there is nothing wrong with
communism except for the fact that it was imposed with
violence. This made it seem bad/evil to americans.

Normaly I wouldn't diss Capitalism but lately I've been
noticing how much it sucks. Its one thing when you have 1 or
2 homeless people in your city, but when you start getting
hundreds of them, maybe its a sign telling you the system is
not flawless.

On the behalf of my country I apologize
for our ignorant leaders and the other idiots that live
here.

*packs up and moves to canada*


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2002-07-02 18:06 [#00293565]
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respect to the americans who have the balls to show their
true feelings and can clearheadily see the impact such a
large and powerful country is having on the world, its sad
that we have to live in a world of P.R presidents and
politicians, and money and power hungry people.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-07-02 18:12 [#00293566]
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a lot of US businesses/powrful families funded the NAZi
party in the 1930s, including General Motors, Ford, and the
Bush family (yes, the same Bush that is currently president
of the USA)


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2002-07-02 18:21 [#00293570]
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funny that isnt it, I call G.W.Bush Jr... Puppet 2, though
their might have been more of them...


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-02 18:25 [#00293572]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



Politics in America:

Man1: "I'm voting for the puppet on the right"

Man2: "The puppet on the left is more to my liking"

Man1: "Hey wait both puppets are being held up by the same
guy!"

Puppet Master: "Go back to sleep America! Your govt. is
working fine! Here drink some beer and watch some daytime
talk shows"


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-07-02 18:32 [#00293575]
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you forget the puppet master displaying his fine array of
consumer products ;)


 


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