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Just finished re-reading Neuromancer by William Gibson, loved it, had forgotten about most of it, in particular I'd forgotten how complicated the plot is, like a film noir, you have to pay attention to every detail and every name. I'd also forgotten all the delightful anachronistic technical details, like rows of pay phones, brainhackers buying software packaged on cardboard-backed blister packs, and the retro game grid visual concept of cyberspace. A flawed book in some ways but a terrific read. So many great Burroughsian names and neologisms like flatlining, the Panther Moderns, Steppin' Razor, Wintermute, the Villa Straylight, the Sprawl... howboutchu what u reading |
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I've got neuromancer in my pile. Never read it but I'll move it up to the top. Have owned it for years but always back out. I'm on and off reading the beastie boys autobiography. It's just loads of short anecdotes, recipes, things like that so I just pick it up and read a few pages now and then. It's good. Also reading Step by Step: adventures in sequencing with max/MSP which is half text book half discussion on sequencers. It's a bit dry and rather short. I am also reading the satanic Bible on and off. Pretty good. |
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i read neuromancer for the first time last year or so and i thought it was pretty good!! really gross porn scenes for no reason tho, with gibson using words like "labia". it's weird copied from another thread:: has anyone read jeff vandermeer? i read the annihilation/authority/acceptance trilogy this year and i loved it, it's very good at evoking wrongness |
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That max book sounds good. The Satanic Bible is more like a Satanic Pamphlet IMO, there's not much to it. |
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Room to dream by David Lynch was a great read for fanboy here. On the subject of sci-fi novels, anyone read ‘The Left Hand of Darkness’ by Ursula Le Guin, or ‘The Shadow of the Torturer’ by Gene Wolfe? They’re on my list as they’ve been recommended a few times. |
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LOL yeah the sex scene was horrible, it's like Gibson's a prude but he felt like he needed to shoehorn that in to justify the relationship between Case and Molly. He also says "scrotum", it's so clinical and not in a good kinky way. :-( I loved Annihilation then got hung up reading Authority. I ought to push through it when I have a moment. The Annihilation movie was OK but so disappointing compared to the book. |
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i was only half-ish paying attention to neuromancer's intricacies when i read it a few years back, i think i need to concentrate more to get the most out of it... back onto the Big List it goes, jeff vandermeer too (never read him) i'm currently reading the extra man by jonathan ames, it's great, funny semi-autobiographical confessional stuff, agredably nervy and pervy. also reading belching out the devil by lefty comedian mark thomas and under the dome by stephen king (long, too long but i'm invested now) |
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the left hand of darkness is fantastic |
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*agreeably and readably sort of mashed into one word there |
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Shame that Cunningham movie never happened. |
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was that a neuromancer movie |
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great! |
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is it the neuromancer movie |
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it's the neuromancer movie Belb - that Jonathan Ames novel sounds interesting. I'm still wondering exactly what happened to Case's old girlfriend in Neuromancer. Everyone is lying to Case about that, imo Shadow of the Torturer intimidates me. I've heard nothing but good things but it's the first book in a looong series. |
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Peeps do you know any of the two I mentioned. I’d have thought it’d be right up your alley. |
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Sorry, for some reason I read your last paragraph late night weird. |
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Ah shit, long series? When I saw Neil Gaiman praise it to bits I didn’t think it was the first book of a series. |
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lol So Le Guin, probably anything she wrote is good and Left Hand of Darkness is highly regarded. I've only read The Lathe of Heaven and The Dispossessed though. |
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Well there's three or four books in the first installment, then two other multi-volume installments, it's all set in the same world. Maybe give it a shot, then bail on the rest of the series if it doesn't set you on fire. I have a 75% bail rate on books and movies, life's too short and I'd rather move on to the 25% |
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Hopefully we can read it together then, possibly spooning. I’ll go to my local bookshop and order it. (I like that old school feel, so when I can I go down that route) |
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Hand of Darkness that is. With the current (r)evolution regarding gender I’m curious to read this, mostly because of when it was written. |
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Right now I'm reading Germinal - finally got the Collier translation and it's much clearer visually, the other translations I tried were like reading through a blindfold. My shitty French isn't good enough to tackle the original. Maybe I'll try it in French after reading the translation. Also reading by Ishay Landa |
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Obviously I had to read it for school. He he, you just triggered fond memories. |
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I am currently reading the newly translated edition of Legends of the Condor Heroes, Vol. 2: A Bond Undone, by Jin Yong aka Louis Cha. It's a classic wuxia series. |
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Will look that up, but had to mention that it made me think of the movie Condorman. Nostalgia trip! |
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yeah I read Neuromancer, I geuss cos of all the tropes that have come years later, it didn't seem as remarkable as it would have if I had read it first, I read the difference engine by William Gibson, and bruce sterling? I like that more |
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I recently read two very good books, My Abandonment, the basis for the film "Leave No Trace", and Rogue Male. |
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i read Crake and Oryx, by Margaret Atwood, i thought it was really, really great so I'm now reading Handmaiden's Tale. i guess it's pretty much as great, but i'm already a bit tired by her style, which is, i guess you could say, some pretty literal dystopy: it hammers the point down by drawing up such a literal dystopy i'm still reading Chomsky's Who Rules the World. i'm so stuck and lazy, though. some other learning books too, stuck |
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I couldn't stand the male protagonist in Oryx and Crake. The portrayal of women in that book was fucking disgusting and sooooo disappointing for Margaret Atwood. It doesn't even pass the Bechdel test for fucks sake. Honestly people should just skip Oryx and Crake and move straight to the (far superior) sequel The Year of the Flood, which is chock full of strong, believable female characters. |
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Yeah the ideas he had have been used a lot since then. But it's interesting seeing how they were first used, it's a funky retro vibe. Check the This is not how I ever pictured it! [zizek voice] my god! RussellDust: Obviously? Is it the euro equivalent of Catcher in the Rye? Marlowe: Rogue Male sounds intriguing! Big: I couldn't get into Oryx and Crake. Atwood is really dry to me except for her first novel Surfacing which is the scariest thing I've ever read. |
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hm I made that sound like a title - "Marlowe: Rogue Male" |
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I only read non fiction. Fiction seems like a waste of time to me |
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thats a very stereotypically German thing to say! |
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How sad. |
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And hyperflake, your stereotyping! Thank goodness for some German authors and filmmakers! |
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yes its tongue in cheek, I was just thinking of that Harry Enfield character, Jürgen the German |
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It's an excellent (and short) book, Peter O'Toole starred in one of the film versions, and I think it's be re-filmed again - definitely worth reading. |
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the male protagonists are terrible. the female is a terrible Mary Sue. i'm sure there's points to it, though. the guy that gave it to me I'd given M Banks' Player of Games. the TV (internet) stuff reminded me of it the book's seems pretty insulting to people with aspergers/neurodivergents, to me |
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I'll read those others. I wanna read Arthur C Clark too |
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you could try childhood's end if you want a great arthur c clarke to begin with biggie, it's one of my favourites |
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yes that's a brilliant brilliant book, love rendezvous with rama as well |
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oh cool i just got that on kindle. so much good stuff to read atm! |
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Aw man, I do miss the Fast Show. Was really brilliant and somewhat new. I wouldn’t mind looking at them again, great cosy and nostalgic viewing. Some of it was rather touching, like the “love story” between Ted and Ralph. I wonder if that blockage in the lower field ever got sorted! |
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Rendezvous with Rama is probably my favourite Arthur C. Clarke book. |
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SF is fine but honestly the most exciting literature for the past decade plus has been YA fiction. Nothing else seems to have the courage to tackle the really important issues head on. |
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@belb, yes I wish life wasn't finite I could spend a few thousand years just reading @Russell my fave was the guy who said, I was very very drunk at the time "poisonous monkey" @marlowe, yes when that oumuamua flew through our solar system I wanted to read the book again, |
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did read that one |
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Well, to be honest i also have some Sci-Fi books lying around here. Cheap paperback sci-fi readers from the 70-80s, Isaac Asimovs 'foundation' trilogy, Dish, Spinrad, etc. etc. Still i prefer non-fiction. Right now tho, i am reading a book about countertransference love. I hope to exploit this psychological mechanism to have sex with lots of women - like that pervert Freud and other naughty psychoanalysts (haha, anal) |
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I am reading Reservoir 13 by Jon McGregor. So far it is a simple story but it is written really, really well. Am thoroughly enjoying it. |
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