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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogue_Super_Nt It's a snes clone. "Squarepusher composed the audio to the system's startup" |
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At the risk of being a pedant, it's not a SNES clone; it is a SNES (or a Super Famicom, depending on how the FPGA is told to behave). I have one with a couple of 8BitDo wireless SNES pads under my TV. I was unaware Squarepusher wrote the intro sound. It's nothing special; it could come from any contemporary retro-styled indie game. The SNES' sound chip in general is pretty underwhelming. It's basically a soundfont player and the least interesting classic console to make music on. |
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here's the squarepusher ditty i would disagree about the snes sound chip being underwhelming. there's something about how the chip downsamples the audio that gives it this nice fuzzy unique quality and it always sounds uniquely "snes-y" to me. compare snes games to GBA ports of snes games and it's night and day (admittedly, an unfair example and more just demonstrates how garbage the GBA sound chip is). i remember there was a koji kondo interview where he said making music for snes was a nightmare, i imagine firstly cos it required a level of tech know how knowing the sample limits and number garbage bullshit that probably goes over the head of most musicians, in terms of how to get the most out of the chip. but there was also the issue of, it being a sampler instantly meant the sound is dependent on what samples you feed into it, compared to NES or Sega which had a synth engine and pretty pre-defined set of limitations. but despite all that, alot of snes games still sound instantly recognizably "snes-y" to me in a way that's hard to pinpoint why. largely about writing a tracker for SNES soundcard, goes into detail about how the downsampling gives it the unique sound. |
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also back on topic. never got a super nt. wanted one but never got one because of the concessions they made from the Analogue NT to Super NT. The dude who did the firmware for the NT released some custom firmware on the side, which let you load games via usb + also use the FPGA tech to play NES+Sega master system+handful of other 8bit era consoles. i think with the super nt, they put in more effort to dial that back a bit, and it's alot more stricter on merely playing cartridges that are inserted (which, with a flash cart cartridge is hardly an issue i guess). but it still seems like a lot of money for something can be achieved via pc emulation for a lot cheaper! still nice to have a dedicated box not doing anything in background to distract from gaming, but the price tags on those boxes ain't cheap!! |
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the snes soundchip is amazing also calling fpga reconstruction 'cloning' is pretty fair |
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worst part of the analogue super nt: no analogue rgb out |
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“The SNES sound chip in general is pretty underwhelming” Uh, compared to what and when? For the time SNES games had some of the best music out there. |
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Ah staz beat me to it! |
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I can see why ceri says the SNES chip is underwhelming from a composition perspective, it's not like it has a lot of character compared to the megadrive or SID for example. Pigster, I think a lot of SNES games have a "snes-y" sound due to the gaussian filter that's applied to everything and the onbaord effects being used in loads of compositions. |
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Still not underwhelming or bad. I had both consoles growing up and still to this day prefer what developers did with the snes chip. Mega drive might have better stats but that does iknno way make the snes chip bad. Fond memories of lots of subtleties. |
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I agree, the SNES chip was great. |
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THheyre doing a Sega one next. As a Sega boy this is good for me as I still have mega games. $190 though, yikes. And mega drive emulation is pretty good. |
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They’ve already released a « mini » megadrive but via another company. Has problems especially on the sound department. Hope they do the next one themselves. |
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You can still get mega drives for 20 quid as they don't have the ridiculous Nintendo retro fetishism markup attached to them, not sure why you'd buy this other than for hdmi out? |
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. They mention the sound chip. |
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yeah this is where i’m definitely drawing the line and deciding this isn’t for me. check out the analogue NT mini. you could load custom firmware onto that thing that lets you play sega master system games. the guy who did the fpga and firmware (kevtris) had even said he has a vision of doing a big fpga box that handles all manner of systems as far as they could push it. getting the custom firmware onto the nt mini was a good indication of that. at this point it’s feeling more like the company Analogue are using those skills and being a bit opportunistic with it, opting more for as many products as possible (milking it for what it’s worth ! $$$) the original analogue nt was 450$ USD, but they also need a 5k$ version made of gold? i’m inclined to say, there’s good shit going on here with how the fpga works and handles the “emulation”, or whatever the correct word is, but the company kinda sucks ... |
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Nothing against Squarepusher, but I'm disappointed The Manufacturer didn't commission a Japanese Composer to compose the Startup Music for the Analogue Super Nt. (Preferably a Female, Trans or Non-Binary Japanese Composer. Jun Chikuma, the Composer for the Bomberman Series, would be an excellent selection.) Paying a White Male to compose the Startup Music for a Super Famicom (Or Super Nintendo Entertainment System, as it is known to White Males) just doesn't seem right. |
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hard agree |
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Personally I don’t care what human category the composer falls into and I quite like that start up jingle. Looped it a few times. And at the end of the day I prob won’t get this thing as I have a mega drive. Would be smarter to get one of those upscalers instead |
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At this price I think something like a MISTer FPGA makes more sense, at least for me. Similar price and while it has no cartridge slots or controller bundled is far more versatile and can be rewritten with different cores etc. I already use an everdrive, usb floppy emulator, SD card reader etc so being able to put original media in isn't a selling point, having a smaller box that can be flashed with a dozen different systems is. The analogue stuff does look lovely though. |
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I don't think You understand just how important Representation is for Women, LGBTQ+ Folks and People Of Color. White Males have been colonizing Female, Queer and POC Spaces since Time Immemorial. Now we're trying to change that. |
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the white man is already succumbing silently, no need for you to escalate |
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you must have your head stuck into the computer |
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keep telling kids they are not rightful because they are white. then cry shit about the youth losing the old values |
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interesting bycatch |
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Every thread |
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sorry |
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People who say shit like this just have no fucking clue about the extent of White Supremacy in America. Slavery, Jim Crow, The Trail Of Tears, Project Wetback, The SS St. Louis, Indian Residential Schools, Red Lining, The Ku Klux Klan, Lynching, COINTELPRO, Police Brutality, Sundown Towns, The Washington Football Team, The School-To-Prison Pipeline, The Iraq War, The Afghanistan War, The Vietnam War... The list goes on and on. |
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At least i have a clue of whats happening before my eyes |
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