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should the term IDM be included in the list of genres in this article? yes: as per my comments above. term is used in verifiable, noteworthy publications to describe richard's music. --Kaini 00:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC) YES!!!!! are you happy?!! What my over 40 sources show is that in the serious press, nobody describe Aphex Twin as IDM. He is described as Electronic Music, and some other. Underground maybe there is some people calls him IDM. I do not care. I do not care about this IDM article, it is a bad article, not good. I care about Aphex Twin. He is an Electronic Musician. Encyclopaedia articles should show this what the press call him, not what the underground call him. Someone will remove my Drill and Bass is a subgnre or Drum and Bass and replace Drum and Bass with IDM. I am so angry. You will remove Plug Luke Vibert. Why? He INVENT THIS GENRE. Aphex Twin infleunced by him!! Who knows here about this music for 15 years? Are you 20? I will vote YES keep your IDM in your genre list. In the article, Aphex Twin is "electronic musican", not "IDM hero" ok? Do you understand over 40 sources. Show me your IDM article I will laugh, it is a funny joke, fufufu. Please correct my detail but please don't remove my writing every time I will get sad please. I didnt load microsoft word. Please, be happy and have a sunny day. It's shining brightly, keep you warm. ☆☆☆☆ LOVE ☆☆☆☆--Mr Nobu. -Susume-Eat Hello please ignore my angry. Only remember this, ☆☆☆☆ LOVE AND PEACE ☆☆☆☆. I read many wikipedia rules. Being friends is the best! Let's work together. ☆☆☆☆. |
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quote: Being friends is the best! Let's work together. ☆☆☆☆. |
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Intelligent Dance Music anon editor User talk:82.3.26.215 does not agree to the inclusion of the term 'IDM' in a number of articles (and does not acknowledge IDM as a genre; see this exchange); however he is willing to enter into discussion, hence this topic; we need to reach a consensus regarding IDM. i do not like the term, but it is convenient, so i am for it --Kaini 03:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Hi, i was also taking the term ' idm ' out of the aphex twin article, and that apparrently is vandalism because it doesn't agree with other peoples ideas. Afaik, IDM was the name of a mailing list made in the 90s to discuss Warp's Artifcial Intelligence compilations. As a musical genre name it means nothing imo, it is so nebulous as to be useless, you had just as well say 'electronic music'. I know the fact I think labelling aphex twin's music 'IDM' is a complete insult doesn't matter one jot on here, but there are already enough recognisable genres which he makes music in - jungle, techno, ambient, noise etc. etc. etc. - 'electronic' and 'experimental' are good enough catch all terms I think - another, elitist, insulting, embaressing one is not needed. Ps. IMO, The IDM article on here is a beyond joke . --gggoldshif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.131.91 (talk • contribs) If he were on the fringe of the genre or something, I wouldn't care, but when people talk about IDM one of the main artists they mean is Aphex Twin. To leave it out of the list would be a major omission. It doesn't have clearly defined limits like happy hardcore or something, but it isn't so vague as electronic music or rock n' roll either. Recury 18:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC) |
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I've been holding back for a while on this. The thing is, hardly any of Aphex Twin could be called IDM. Aphex Twin made drum and bass, it was fast and fucked up but he was making drum and bass. Calling RDJ an IDM album is pure crazy talk. Just because a selection of people on the internet liked to call it IDM doesn't make that album an IDM one. Aphex Twin doesn't really make IDM music. His followers who have grown up on the internet community make it. It's our thing. I think IDM should be written in this article, but it's right to keep it in a section which describes it as what some internet fans invented to describe bizarre music from Warp Records. It's definitely not a "musical genre" that Aphex Twin has worked in. IDM: leave it in the article and out of the genres. IDM is really great, I love Chris Clark and stuff, it's awe inspiring stuff. I even have had my own mp3 label for IDM (we gave up on it)... However I don't think it's a musical style that Aphex Twin works in or applies to any of his records. I agree with everyone on Electronic Music as it is superglued to -*Aphex Twin*- and his infuences, Stockhausen, Delia Derbyshire, and so on. Aphex Twin is world famous for building his own electronic instruments at age 13 for God's sake. None of my friends think Aphex Twin makes IDM. We've all read the interviews since www.joyrex.com in 2002. Sorry for talking a sad "git", it's just my two mao (cents) xiexie - tommy zhang hello, i will remove idm until i die. that is my promise. Susume-eat 05:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC) Well, I'd rather live, and won't revert any further in this skirmish. Maybe the disagreement goes to show that info-boxes are overrated. ---Sluzzelin talk 02:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Kaini and Recury will keep readding IDM. Why? I want to remove it. It is not for Aphex Twin:s albums, it was created on the IDM list on the internet. It is not Aphex Twin:s music, it is some boys on the internet who made this name. I have researched Aphex Twin many times for my universit |
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Take a DEEP breath. |
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.... switch |
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jesus christ almighty |
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basically, wikipedia is a strong argument against democracy |
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the only reason there are so many errors perceived on wikipedia is that there is such a huge amount of information to begin with. statistically it's more accurate than any other encyclopedia on the planet, far more thorough and has a mind-boggling number of articles. a government where every citizen is equal, anyone can vote but only those who really care do, and where the "law" is consistently changing to reflect the view of its "populace?" sign me up. |
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idm please stop removing the idm-related terms from articles such as Aphex Twin and The Braindance Coincidence. you mightn't like the term (i don't) but it is widely accepted and so belongs in the article. thanks. --Kaini 16:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC) stop putting it in. it's inappropriate in both articles. opinion? bull. knock it off already. sigh. look, discuss it on the talk page of the articles first. if you can reach a consensus there, remove it by all means. --Kaini 15:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC) it's already inappropriate, so KNOCK IT OFF. i don't think one anonymous editor gets to be arbiter of what is or is not appropriate on wiki. --Kaini 18:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC) hello crufty, perhaps you are from the watmm or xltronic messageboards and you want to put in this fan made genre name that you guys use on your internet messageboard, but it is already mentioned appropriately in the article in the influences on others section. you really love aphex twin? that's great, have you read the aphex twin article? i recommend you have a good read of it if there is an article on IDM (and there is), then it deserves a mention in the article, because as i've stated you may not like the term (i don't), but it exists, and rdj has had a big influence on the so-called "genre". I'm requesting the article be semiprotected so if you want to continue your vandalism, you'll have to register a username. --Kaini 15:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC) i think it's silly to call this vandalism and to have the page blocked for me. im a bit pissed off at this so im gonna cool down for a day or two and come back. come into the talk page and we'll talk about this properly. i think if we have a chat about this in there everything will be cleared up in the end. thanks!!! i'm glad you're willing to discuss this on the talk page. that's how issues like this are meant to be resolve |
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Use "braindance" on wikipedia instead and everyone wins. |
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Yes AFX music is unique but that rly does not meen that you must invent new generes to describe something similar to his music. In my opinion there is too much generes around, they must be somehow unified. This kind of scission of styles only brings more stereotypes, this kind of stuff makes musicmakers work for diferent record companies, which all is style boundred. You should know that in judicious style mixtures sometimes one can produse original stuff. |
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i guess if no one cared that much then at least %90 of the problem would just float away |
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Thats why they talking about this stuff becouse they rly dont know what is IDM, they dont know that it same elektronic music, THEY DONT CARE what is electronic music, so they invented IDM. You cant categorise things that are already subjective this is crazy. |
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Ok maybe we wil soon invent three beat style, soon will come record companies with buch of producers which will compete in three beat variations and stuff. This is near future, if people will never care rly what they listening. |
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i've posted this before, but not here. Free at Last (1992) In 1992, the group released an album that would forever change the landscape of Christian music, Free at Last, which was later RIAA-certified as Platinum.[8] "Free at Last" is considered to be one of the best rap albums of all time, be it Christian or secular.[1] The album produced six Christian radio hits[citation needed], including "I Don't Want It", "Lean on Me", and "Jesus Is Just Alright".[6] It stayed at the #1 spot on the Billboard CCM sales chart for 34 weeks.[6][7] Free at Last also garnered the group's first Grammy Award for Best Rock Gospel Album in 1994.[6][1] The success of the album is attributed to the group moving away from a strictly rap sound to a blend of hip hop and pop.[7] The album also prompted the filming of a documentary film with the same name. |
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This is wonderful information Mr Dictionary |
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I believe brain dance. pepe |
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it's not about what you think |
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i assume you're saying you believe aphex twin's style should be called braindance and not idm however the wikipedia article should be based on what published media think it should be called. really now that i think about it both can be named because i'm sure published media called it both. it doesn't seem to be a problem in the article now though because the genre is called electronic and there's paragraphs idm and braindance (sorry about this nonsense discussion, please don't read it) |
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Only Richard D James can now dominate the beauty of the laptop in electronic music of the complexity in the variety of the dance of the brain that we must dance and please |
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statistically it's more accurate than any other encyclopedia on the planet Is a terrible argument to use pro wikipedia. I would never read wikipedia if all I knew was that it is 99 % accurate. I read it because I know that it is 99 % accurate and I can verify how believable an article is on the talkpage. 's a documentary with criticism I've had an argument about wikipedia on a forum (well it mostly was me philosophyzing) and in the end I concluded my objection to wikipedia was my objection to democracy. Or rather that wikipedia is the bad version of democracy, pepe: that's cute. I didn't even realize you started this thread. |
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well that Ochlocracy article is rather negative I guess I just mean the mass, the mob, isn't always right |
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah who in the hell discusses music on this forum? i only read the first cpl posts tho, did the thread stay on topic? |
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sorry. but to our defense we we talking about musical genres and wikipedia |
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its fine, i just have a certain amount of contempt for genre-nazism. lets just call it music and be done :) |
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what gingaling said^ 'lets just call it music and be done :)' |
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electronic music |
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i agree. and it's not that i want to be right, i just can't stand the other side being wrong |
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'Old timer' is wrong. I'll respond to his post before reading the rest. I'm fine with the genre electronic music, but that's just because it's the genre that spans over all others. Old timer however means electro-acoustic music, which focuses on making sounds through experiment with electronics. While Aphex Twin does experiment quite a bit, most of his music is pretty 'normal'; it's more Dance music than electro-acoustic music. (electro-acoustic, experimental, whatever you call it) |
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Okay, I didn't read the rest |
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Old timer |
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IDM |
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Idea-um. |
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this is like the discogs edit history page for the vinyl version of Geogaddi |
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hahah |
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