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cwnt
on 2009-12-13 06:06 [#02350703]
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Quentin Tarantino's severely under-educated USA redneck teenager dream of what WW2 was like. Hitler the Clown. Rock music in WW2 (wtf?). Jews kicking the Nazi's backsides (Dude, that's not what happened irl...). Brad Pitt's bad southern accent. The finale set in a cinema and the obsession with movies and films rather than the actual subject matter of WWII!. "Classic scene" of woman in red dress in the mirror, that has nothing to do with anything except director homage/overintellectualisating. Ennio Morricone aesthetic mismatch soundtrack (great music that doesn't fit the film). Yuck!
I'm really surprised at all the 10/10 reviews out there. I bet that future generations will ignore this film, 'cos it steals the ideas of the classics but it's not a classic itself.
There are good points to the film, like sexy women and nice sets and acting and stuff, but it would be much better if Tarantino didn't make it.
World War 2 colour footage The reality of World War 2 is far more beautiful, creepy, sickening, chilling, and weird than the shit flowing out of Tarantino's ears. See Hitler playing with a dog and chatting to a girl in a friendly way, just like your grandfather might have done. See nasty fucker soldiers enjoying grapes in the countryside. See the North Korean-like cult-of-worship adulation of mass murderer Stalin. English women and young children trying on gas masks. Etc etc. Loads more things in this video, which at 9 minutes long, blows away any of this stupid stupid aintitcoolnewsgeeksatisfying Tarantino shite.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-12-13 06:10 [#02350704]
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yea, its a great film!
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2009-12-13 06:10 [#02350705]
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I really liked it.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2009-12-13 06:17 [#02350707]
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great link
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-12-13 06:54 [#02350709]
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indeed, it was self-indulgent shit.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-13 06:56 [#02350713]
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What 10/10 reviews? It had mixed reviews at best and I have no intention of seeing it.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-12-13 06:57 [#02350714]
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I take 10/10 reviews with a grain of salt in general, but for this movie I'm inclined to think anyone who says 10/10 is an utter moron.
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 07:06 [#02350715]
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i think that the intellectualizing like tarantino does does not make art per se. also it's maddening this particular guy is the most poplular film author or whatever you want to call it, independent film maker, whatever. especially because it's because people think he's hip
the movie is flawed in several aspects. too many characteres for instance. kind of sloppily written or edited.
however. i did get to see an original film. i hadn't seen anything like it yet. i did think it was funny and cool (though i can hardly stand the violence). it's good tarantino took on ww2 because the movies on them seem to be made with a rigged mold
the point is the last paragraph of this review is maddening. it's a movie and fiction: people didn't go to the theatres to see a documentary on how crazy ww2 was
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-13 07:08 [#02350717]
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Dont get me wrong,I adore Tarantino films,but the subject of world war two is one thats very close to my heart,and it makes me sick that some fat fucking 'movie mogul' probably watched the opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan and said...'Bah,I wish that whole ww2 thing was a little more hip you know?'(pause)'Wait just a goddamn minute...whats Quentin doing?Get that motherfucker on the phone...'etc etc.
I looked forward to this film,watched it all,cringed through most of it,and will not watch it again.
I apologise for the swearing in this post but it really was a bloody awful film.
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 07:19 [#02350720]
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the movie theatre part was just so awesome. with the nazis enjoying a ultra violence movie. that too is very unrealistic because the nazis were actually for family values, a herrenvolk
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2009-12-13 07:22 [#02350721]
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the film is a collection of good ideas arranged in bad way, it's a movie in which I sense he struggle to be cool. If you pick characters per se they have great potential, you see a character introduced with his name on the screen as he is going to be badass and then you realize he is not that important in the storyline, the blackspoitation reference has no purpose at all and Landa is a dumbass with a big pipe or a evil character?
Still it's a nice film, it could be great though.
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 07:24 [#02350722]
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but he'd been playing with the idea for 10 years. also i'd still like to see him as independent, despite the financiers know investing in tarantino will always pay, if it's funny and violent enough.
after 60 years, and many respectful movies, it should be ok to make light of it once? make light of the movies and myths mostly, because imo it doesn't really make light of ww2 anyway, because it's so unrealistic
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 07:26 [#02350724]
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yes
what's the blacksploitation aspect? are the jews the black here?
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-13 07:28 [#02350725]
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I didnt say he shouldnt make light of the subject,I just found the whole idea of trying to 'hipsterize' that event to be painfully obvious and awkwardly trite.
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2009-12-13 07:29 [#02350726]
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there's an interracial relationship between the fugitive girl and the macho black guy
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 08:58 [#02350799]
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i don't think many people now think ww2 was cool. and if they do they're just dumb
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big
from lsg on 2009-12-13 09:01 [#02350800]
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well, that's not blaxploitation imo
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-12-13 10:42 [#02350850]
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imo, this was one of tarantino's worst movies. with or without landa. ...without would be worse obviously
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2009-12-13 16:20 [#02350886]
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I didn't particularly like it. Can't seem to figure out what the accolade was all about.
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RussellDust
on 2009-12-13 16:38 [#02350888]
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I'm curious. Gonna watch this in the next view days. It seems like one of those not meant to be taken too seriously.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-12-13 17:02 [#02350893]
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this is a weird film, as it isn't historically correct, or wants to be. it's a strange tale in a rich, detailed, b movie manner, that concentrates more on a couple of characters. these characters make the movie bizarrely enjoyable.
like it or not it is a very original piece, despite its inspiration.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-12-13 19:09 [#02350929]
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except it's not funny?
Brad Pitt? oh lol? Landa smokes a big pipe? fantastic? Daniel Brühl? Fuck off? David Bowie? ffffffffuu...? and that baseball bat guy? FAIL?
i'm sure there are more questionmarks to be found but i'm tired.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-13 20:19 [#02350953]
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I never had a very good feeling about this film, but now I know not to waste my time watching it. I might watch the 9 min docu that cwnt posted tmorra, though.
Thanks for thinking for me, guys! :)
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-12-14 01:58 [#02350963]
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you're missing out on two or three good dialogues though. the king kong vs african american slavery dialogue, the jews vs rats dialogue and there's probably another one i'm missing here.
the amount is sub-par for a tarentino movie, but individually they're enjoyable for what they are.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 04:51 [#02350972]
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As I said in the original Inglorious Basterds thread, this film thinks it's far cleverer than it actually is. While it's shot beautifully and is full of little curios and touches that interest and entertain it is completely ruined by Tarantino's 'I'm a scholar of fucking genre film, watch as I reference stuff and lecture you at every available opportunity' attitude. This makes massive stretches of the film dull and his desire to insert every fucking brain fart he has gives the movie serious pacing problems in the last half.
Also who in there right minds thinks casting fucking Eli Roth in any acting role is a good idea, let alone one pivotal to the story.
Tarantino's films are increasingly becoming condescending to the viewer, he needs less yes men agreeing with his self obsessed preachy 'this is what's awesome, I'm a fucking barometer of cool' crap and more people who just want to make a decent movie.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-12-14 05:09 [#02350973]
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*their
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-01-03 07:09 [#02356297]
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so yeah i've watched Lars von Trier's Europa last night and i gotta say Tarantino is a sack of shit. Europa had everything Basterds didn't have, which was a lot: humour, characters, decent acting, excellent camera and editing, soundtrack, an intriguing plot, VERBOTEN NEIN VORSCHRIFT, and a fucking train.
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2010-01-03 07:37 [#02356302]
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Europa is brilliant. Gotta love Udo Kier.
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big
from lsg on 2010-01-03 07:58 [#02356304]
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The opening scene is great. I'm probably a philistine but I think the Western soundtrack in the beginning was hilarious.
Less good, but amusing was the Michael Meyers en Churchill scene.
Less good, but still pretty intense is the bar scene. Did they play '20 questions' back then already btw?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2010-01-03 08:27 [#02356308]
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I liked it a lot, I thought Brad Pitt was really holding it together for me but it seems like a lot of people thought he was shit. Landa was amazing, I loved the whole first scene and pretty much all of Landa's scenes. Some of the quirky Tarantino shit was a bit silly like flashing names up on the screen, Bowie etc. I don't understand why people can complain about it not being historically accurate, who gives a fuck.
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2010-01-03 09:57 [#02356328]
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It's not meant to be historically accurate. If you think it is, you're missing the point completely.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-01-03 12:10 [#02356335]
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Anyone hoping to garner historical accuracy from a Tarantino movie should have known better.
The real problem lies in Tarantino's scripts, which are bloody awful and get worse with every movie. Each scene is overly long, and most of the dialogue nothing but a big bag of shite that does nothing to enhance the story.
There doesn't seem to be any room for improv, or that moment of genius that might come from an actor being allowed to exhibit their personality or lose themselves in the role. They just stick to the script like glue, which is bad filmmaking in my opinion.
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big
from lsg on 2010-01-03 14:34 [#02356351]
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hitler wasn't killed in a movie theatre in paris?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-01-03 15:59 [#02356370]
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HITLER WASN'T KILLED AT ALL!!!!!!
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magicant
from Canada on 2010-01-04 00:49 [#02356422]
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maybe Tarantino is making a statement about all the new remakes that are being made and are damaging the integrity of their originals. Tarantino similarly insults the integrity of WWII history???
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MAXIMUSMISCHIEF
from Canada on 2010-01-04 04:44 [#02356433]
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are you guys joking?
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freqy
on 2010-01-04 05:02 [#02356434]
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Hilter is dead now. he died, from that which you find in apple pips.
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freqy
on 2010-01-04 05:05 [#02356435]
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mmm , yummy pips
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-01-04 12:55 [#02356487]
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hitler? i saw him a month ago selling hotdogs on the corner. they tasted like shit, btw.
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Sano
on 2010-01-05 14:40 [#02356680]
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The ending threw away that was good about the movie, Hans Landa.
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staz
on 2010-01-05 15:09 [#02356711]
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ahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahah aahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaaha haahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaah ahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaa hahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahaha ahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahah aahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhaha haahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhah ahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahha hahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahh ahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahah hahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaaha hhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahahaahahaah ahhahahaahahaahahaahahhahahaahaha
the movie was excellent, and you guys are fucking beyond belief in how retarded you are.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-01-05 15:42 [#02356733]
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Shhh you.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2010-01-05 15:43 [#02356735]
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awful movie, I agree. Well, it started out ok, right up to the part where the girl was allowed to escape. From that moment on it was a total crapfest.
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cwnt
on 2010-01-05 15:58 [#02356742]
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ye
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2010-01-05 16:07 [#02356755]
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just watched it again in 1080pee and it was just as awesome this time around. might actually have been even better the second time.
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Jennifer_b
from journey to a better me (United States) on 2010-01-05 17:17 [#02356852]
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whoa! you are like fuckin slow style stoopit yo
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Jennifer_b
from journey to a better me (United States) on 2010-01-05 17:20 [#02356857]
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but the film is bad yo i see why some like it but its real fuckin not good. revenge film without passion
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2010-02-01 11:47 [#02363621]
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Did you really laugh for that long?
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freqy
on 2010-02-01 11:51 [#02363622]
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it was great cause they got hitler and the rest of them in the end !
i thought they wouldnt ! so that was cool.
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pepe
from Madrid (Spain) on 2010-02-01 13:45 [#02363657]
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pepe hosé
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